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159. I agree with Sabrina

Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:55 AM

Feb 2012

and think that you are wrong about her.

I do not consider myself christian (have not attended a church since early gradeschool, over 3 decades ago) I did check out UU and liked it, but my schedule is too busy for such things.

I was privileged as a child as well, in that all the people I had exposure to treated each other with respect and kindness. I grew up thinking people were basically nice and good. Similar to what I take Sabrina to be stating above.

I have read most all major religious works (out of curiosity) and a fair bit of philosophy. Read the "bible" when I was younger and Jesus' "liberal" stances just seemed the correct way to treat another human being.

I think you should re-read her posts, you may see what she says in a different light.

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Santorum: There's no such thing as a liberal Christian [View all] CanonRay Feb 2012 OP

What a complete A$$! The Jesus of his bible is the model for a "Liberal" Christian. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #1

In Santorum's world NewJeffCT Feb 2012 #37

I will pay Icky Ricky $10,000,000 if he can show me any original quote (in English) by Jesus. What Vincardog Feb 2012 #179

Republican Jesus a2liberal Feb 2012 #73

that is why I love Jesus, he was a lib. roguevalley Feb 2012 #83

A pro-slavery lib, that's new. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #143

wow. you are a piece of work. Paul wrote the story of the Christ. I roguevalley Feb 2012 #182

Really? He wrote Luke? I was not aware of that. Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #185

words out of my mouth rtracey Feb 2012 #173

Keep talking, Rick jberryhill Feb 2012 #2

Oh, Rick. You so crazy! Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #3

fuck you rick sanctimonious spanone Feb 2012 #4

you took the words right out of my mouth n/t dana_b Feb 2012 #129

Other than Jesus that is... lunatica Feb 2012 #5

Yeah, but Jesus was Jewish so he doesn't count. Richardo Feb 2012 #16

One more of those my way or the highway malaise Feb 2012 #6

lol, Santorum continues to have delusions of grandeur quinnox Feb 2012 #7

I missed the announcement!!! tonybgood Feb 2012 #86

I can't take it anymore..... livetohike Feb 2012 #8

Nope. HughBeaumont Feb 2012 #18

I know livetohike Feb 2012 #24

I've pretty much turned off the TV since that time... October Feb 2012 #160

Yeah no kidding! I wonder how many people he is turning off? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #51

Hopefully every woman eligible to vote and as many men as possible n/t livetohike Feb 2012 #66

I know, my ears have started to bleed. smirkymonkey Feb 2012 #67

We have to mute the tv when he is on and my husband livetohike Feb 2012 #76

Narrow minded and intolerant. n/t RDANGELO Feb 2012 #9

Matthew 25:41-46 aquart Feb 2012 #10

I wish some folks here at DU would realize how asinine THEY sound Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #11

Unfortunate! atreides1 Feb 2012 #40

Actually Santorum sounds just like Liberal Christians condemning conservative Christians... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #78

condemning false interpretations of the good works of Jesus roguevalley Feb 2012 #87

I agree. Where is the "Christ" in fundementalist Christianity? Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #96

as long as you're the one who gets to decide which interpretation is true and which is false.... mike_c Feb 2012 #104

Really? I found Jesus' words and actions to be contradictory, in many cases immoral... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #106

+1 cleanhippie Feb 2012 #107

Says you, yet you engage in the same behavior you accuse them of doing. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #109

ah, so all sides are equivalent? How quaint. roguevalley Feb 2012 #112

They are in their argument about who is interpreting the bible correctly. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #113

I haven't seen that. I have seen Christians condemn people claiming to be followers of Christ sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #119

What makes them anti-Christian? Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #123

It's not hard. Are you familiar with the teachings of Christ? sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #127

I was raised a Christian, so yes, and I found them muddled, contradictory... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #130

Really? I had a completely different experience, and credit them with the fact that I could never, sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #140

I doubt it, it probably was your compassion and integrity that made you a liberal... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #141

I don't credit religion with who I am, but it did influence me at an early age. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #145

"I just assumed everyone felt the same way." See, this is why the majority can NEVER tell a... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #146

Privilege? How do you come to that conclusion? I was not 'privileged' other than having a good sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #152

You never heard of majority privilege, like white privilege, or straight privilege, or... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #153

You are making huge assumptions here. Lol, sorry, but you could not be more wrong. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #156

I hate when people misuse words, so really, explain how my so called ideas are a form of religion... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #158

Also, that was your family influencing you, not the religion itself... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #148

I agree with Sabrina PowerToThePeople Feb 2012 #159

Thank you, you are correct. I am wondering why there is anything wrong with thinking people sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #161

I'm talking about privilege in society, as in not facing discrimination, shunning or... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #166

i'm curious what contradictions and Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #181

Love your enemies(but condemn them to hell), follow the old law(I fulfilled it)... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #183

HARDLY. You've not heard of the Berrigan Brothers? THEY were Liberal Christians. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #139

And? Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #142

what you said, Nuclear Unicorn roguevalley Feb 2012 #85

Pretty much. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #168

That must be news to Jesus no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #12

Ok, make this jackass the nominee and play that clip and he will outrage millions. WI_DEM Feb 2012 #13

The United Church of Christ is generally pretty liberal... LeftinOH Feb 2012 #14

You're correct, in fact many consider them 'too darn' liberal! Here are FailureToCommunicate Feb 2012 #100

"used a non-literal interpretation of the Bible"?!?! THAT'S HIS BEEF? Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #15

Question 1 for the Obama/Santorum Debate: FSogol Feb 2012 #17

Jesus himself got into lots of trouble with the Santorums of his day deutsey Feb 2012 #33

I Think Jesus Would Use Your Sig Line When Speaking To Ricky! HangOnKids Feb 2012 #42

Ha! I think he would too. deutsey Feb 2012 #118

Thank you. The Pope is not mentioned in the Bible. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #52

yeah. he's a total jackass n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #147

geez, there's parts of the bible I'm glad people don't take literally newspeak Feb 2012 #56

Even this longtime atheist knows that the RCC hifiguy Feb 2012 #57

its his side of the pew that is rewriting the bible to clip liberalism not us roguevalley Feb 2012 #88

Funny, most of DU's Christians try to say there's no other kind dmallind Feb 2012 #19

+ a bazillion n/t Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #49

heh. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #54

The rational answer is, of course, "none." They're all Christians. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #70

But there is a way to tell. It's easy. dawg Feb 2012 #77

You also have to hate your families, abandon them, condemn non-believers to everlasting... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #80

Jesus gave two commandments. dawg Feb 2012 #81

"If your friends or your family or your property comes in the way of that relationship, you are..." Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #84

Try to think about this concept in non-theist terms. dawg Feb 2012 #91

No it isn't, for one, non-belief harms no one, basically you are saying... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #102

I was at a loss for words on how to respond. boppers Feb 2012 #165

Non-belief harms no one. Belief harms no one. Ultimately it is the choices we make. dawg Feb 2012 #176

Sounds like you are stretching things quite a bit here, and belief can harm others... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #184

I believe Jesus was one of the great thinkers of history. dawg Feb 2012 #188

Its very difficult for me to take you seriously when you say things like that... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #189

You build an impressive case. dawg Feb 2012 #191

if you follow fanatics that happens. If you follow Jesus you can change the world roguevalley Feb 2012 #89

You said it, man Son of Gob Feb 2012 #108

Jesus was a fanatic, don't you get that... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #110

he didn't. Paul said he did. Paul wrote the story after Jesus roguevalley Feb 2012 #111

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #114

Did Paul write the Gospels? Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #117

I'd like to see a cite for that. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #169

I was introduced to the concept of 'othering' in my communication and WGS classes. RadiationTherapy Feb 2012 #20

Well, I "other" HIM AND his fellow Republicans. Sue me. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #137

God always adheres to the believer's political beliefs. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #21

How true! JDPriestly Feb 2012 #60

Santorum: "Ain't nobody got the truth but me." Bake Feb 2012 #22

Yeah, that Jeebus fella was a real republican through and through...right? truebrit71 Feb 2012 #23

Ricky, "I did NOT say Obama wasn't a Christian last week but this week I am saying it. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #25

If Joseph was an orthodox Jew he would have had Mary stoned to death. Loudmxr Feb 2012 #26

Wow, so he's admitting he's a fundamentalist Catholic. The Christian Taliban is here! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #27

Not exactly a state secret. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #138

Wait, Rick! BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #28

pffft davidthegnome Feb 2012 #71

There's no such thing as a fake Christian who actually follows the teaching of Christ. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #29

I guess this douchebag never read the gospels... LynneSin Feb 2012 #30

They do make a Cliff Notes New Testament. raouldukelives Feb 2012 #31

Rick is so wrong on this Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #32

Put a bullet in the cylinder, spin, cock the revolver, point it at us & pull the trigger... Click. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #34

The guy who was probably the most "liberal" Christian ever was hung on a cross. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #35

Hey Ricky, Jesus was a left wing, radical Jew, murdered by people like you. phleshdef Feb 2012 #36

Oh, bite me, Santorum! hamsterjill Feb 2012 #38

Wrong. Conservative Christian is the oxymoron. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #39

And Rush Is The OXY! n/t HangOnKids Feb 2012 #43

You realize you are using the same fallacy as Santorum on this one, right? n/t Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #50

Christianity Is Conservative? HangOnKids Feb 2012 #58

Actually, Christianity is whatever a Christian who follows it thinks it is... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #125

They have reasoning/support for their argument. You for yours. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #174

Supply Side Jesus strikes again thelordofhell Feb 2012 #41

Using the non-literal interpretation of the Bible. There is the key to understanding him. And that jwirr Feb 2012 #44

Again Iliyah Feb 2012 #45

And the Puritans proceeded to persecute all those Salem witches! lunatica Feb 2012 #99

Persecuted religious groups fled or were kicked out of Europe because AlbertCat Feb 2012 #120

Oh goodie......... gawd wars! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #46

so Santorum says the Pope isn't a sincere Christian Enrique Feb 2012 #47

I wonder what version of the Bible Santorum JDPriestly Feb 2012 #48

I have a lot of Catholic friends and not one of them has read the roguevalley Feb 2012 #90

I was a Catholic who read the Bible cover to cover, hence why I'm an atheist now. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #149

Precisely! JDPriestly Feb 2012 #187

I can think of one--Jesus himself librechik Feb 2012 #53

"non-literal interpretation of the Bible" You mean like the Catholic Church uses? white_wolf Feb 2012 #55

I will certainly allow them all the credibility they indeed warrant. LanternWaste Feb 2012 #59

Non-literal is wrong? ohheckyeah Feb 2012 #61

because he was gnostic. The literalists of course burned the gnostics. roguevalley Feb 2012 #92

Cut the guy some slack... 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2012 #62

I would hope that the UU's wouldn't vote for him anyway BlueDemKev Feb 2012 #65

I know a whole congregation that wouldn't. 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2012 #79

So Santorum obviously believes that I'm not real..... BlueDemKev Feb 2012 #63

I guess that rules out Jesus then. And me. How dare I be a liberal...and a Christian! Jennicut Feb 2012 #64

Plainly Written/Literal Interpretation DallasNE Feb 2012 #68

He's vying with Newt & Romney for title of first preacher. Initech Feb 2012 #69

Walking the Repub Plank. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2012 #72

So it is literally true thucythucy Feb 2012 #74

BURN the heretics - bring back the Spanish Inquisition nm Ian62 Feb 2012 #75

He's not really a Catholic since he believes in War and the Death Penalty. nt Ilsa Feb 2012 #82

Who made you God? cmd Feb 2012 #93

Jesus wasn't a Christian and his sermons would be shouted down by today's smug right winger aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2012 #94

then they need to take his name out of their label- Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #97

Santorum is actually a Secret Plot by Turbineguy Feb 2012 #95

Isn't that like "There's No Such Thing As A Sane Republican?" DFW Feb 2012 #98

I can think of one: Jesus! emsimon33 Feb 2012 #101

hey, frothy, you just insulted one of my dearest friends (now deceased), who was, in her own words, niyad Feb 2012 #103

Either he never read the Sermon on the Mount, or he's just plain nuckin' futs. Fortran Feb 2012 #105

Look in the mirror, Santorum leighperson Feb 2012 #115

"To take what is plainly written and say that 'I don't agree with that,..." Fritz67 Feb 2012 #116

Autumn: There's no such thing as a conservative Christian Autumn Feb 2012 #121

I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword - Jesus Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #126

Yes he did say that. He also said to take care of each other. He spoke love, not hate Autumn Feb 2012 #128

Actually he spoke of both love and hate, charity and selfishness... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #132

Really got a hard-on in this thread huh? Union Scribe Feb 2012 #170

I don't resent them, I just find it hypocritical to criticize Santorum for things they do as well... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #171

Rick Santorum can go fuck himself. boxman15 Feb 2012 #122

If he wants to read the Bible literally Nancy Waterman Feb 2012 #124

Hey Ricky! There's no such thing as a "compassionate conservative." muntrv Feb 2012 #131

I bet he was wearing clothing made of BLENDED CLOTH when he said that, the hypocrite! Jester Messiah Feb 2012 #133

Now he's even pissing off sincere conservative Christians grantcart Feb 2012 #134

Jesus wept. nt Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #135

Santorum is doing some serious perversion-squelching. Maybe he likes dogs. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #136

Simpleton full of himself. Huff n Puff bullshit. He is the first stone thrower apparently. lonestarnot Feb 2012 #144

As an atheist, I wish more liberals would build coalitions with people of faith. JackBeck Feb 2012 #150

Many people of faith are liberals kwassa Feb 2012 #186

God is too busy influencing the outcome of sporting events to get involved in politics Telly Savalas Feb 2012 #151

But isn't Santorum liberal with his prudishness? Blue Owl Feb 2012 #154

a vote for Rick is a vote for Torquemada! triguy46 Feb 2012 #155

and there are no intelligent republican candidates spanone Feb 2012 #157

Hey, Rick, THE 9th COMMANDMENT Exodus 20:16 "Thou shalt not bear false witness." Tennessee Gal Feb 2012 #162

The more I read about this guy, the more I wonder...Is he running tsuki Feb 2012 #163

Stuck up R.Blue Feb 2012 #164

Hell. Jesus was pretty liberal..... WCGreen Feb 2012 #167

Church Of The Latter Day Rick sellitman Feb 2012 #172

Great, both my Irony AND my Hypocrisy meters just exploded. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #175

Stupid is as Stupid does... AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #177

Ayn Rand loves you and died for your sins Taverner Feb 2012 #178

No such thing as an electable Religious Extremist.....nt Evasporque Feb 2012 #180

No true Scotsman. n/t rucky Feb 2012 #190