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Divernan

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75. WHO are you identifying as a "Bushie cohort" or Bushie neo-cons?

Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:32 PM

Aug 2013

Can you calm down enough to tell me which of the three distinguished professors I quoted you believe to be a "Bushie cohort" or "Bushie neo-con" or the "roach", and give a link and some actual, you know, facts to document your statement?

And FYI, I am a lifelong Democrat, and an elected Dem. office holder in my township.

And finally, oooooooooooh, I'm soooooooooooooo scared - NOT! that you ominously tell me I'm a usual suspect - in your book. What book would that be? Sort of like Senator McCarthy's imaginary list? Have such anonymous threats actually ever worked for you? I scuba dive with sharks, buddy, and until I retired, argued cases and motions in Federal courts. You know what the shrinks say - inside every bully is a whimpering little coward.

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Have at it! Exactly which con law profs & their credentials & opinions on the subject. Divernan Aug 2013 #11

With THESE Credentials ??? - I'd Be All Ears... WillyT Aug 2013 #12

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It's the same dodge that Fox News uses. Maedhros Aug 2013 #58

OK, Pal! Glad to rub your nose in the views of prestigious con law profs. Divernan Aug 2013 #25

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Watch out, Willie! He'll put you in his "book", too! Divernan Aug 2013 #76

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Can You Be Specific... About The Powers Above The Government ??? WillyT Aug 2013 #79

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WHO are you identifying as a "Bushie cohort" or Bushie neo-cons? Divernan Aug 2013 #75

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Come ON! Name a name! Divernan Aug 2013 #83

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It's been shown as "less than evidenciary?" Maedhros Aug 2013 #164

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