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In reply to the discussion: UPDATED: See Post #58... Jesus... :( :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: [View all]WillyT
(72,631 posts)58. I Was Too Upset At The Time... Here's The Entire Letter:
July 31, 2013
Dear President Obama and President Hadi
My name is Faisal bin Ali Jaber. I am a Yemeni engineer from Hadramout, employed by Yemen's equivalent of the Environmental Protection Agency. I am writing today because I read in the news that you will be meeting in the White House on Thursday, August 1, to discuss the "counter-terrorism partnership" between the US and Yemen.
My family has personally experienced this partnership. A year ago this August, a drone strike in my ancestral village killed my brother-in-law, Salem bin Ali Jaber, and my twenty-one-year-old nephew, Waleed.
President Obama, you said in a recent speech that the United States is "at war with an organisation that right now would kill as many Americans as they could if we did not stop them first." This war against al-Qa'ida, you added, "is a just war - a war waged proportionally, in last resort, and in self-defense."
President Hadi, on a trip to the United States last September, you claimed that "every operation [in Yemen], before taking place, [has] permission from the president." You also asserted that "the drone technologically is more advanced than the human brain".
Why, then, last August, did you both send drones to attack my innocent brother-in-law and nephew? Our family are not your enemy. In fact, the people you killed had strongly and publicly opposed al-Qa'ida. Salem was an imam. The Friday before his death, he gave a guest sermon in the Khashamir mosque denouncing al-Qa'ida's hateful ideology. It was not the first of these sermons, but regrettably, it was his last.
In months of grieving, my family have received no acknowledgement or apology from the U.S. or Yemen. We've struggled to square our tragedy with the words in your speeches.
How was this "self-defense"? My family worried that militants would target Salem for his sermons. We never anticipated his death would come from above, at the hands of the United States. In his death you lost a potential ally in fact, because word of the killing spread immediately through the region, I fear you have lost thousands.
How was this "in last resort"? Our town was no battlefield. We had no warning our local police were never asked to make any arrest. My young nephew Waleed was a policeman, before the strike cut short his life.
How was this "proportionate"? The strike devastated our community. The day before the strike, Khashamir buzzed with celebrations for my eldest son's wedding. Our wedding videos show Salem and young Waleed in a crowd of dancing revellers, joining the celebration. Traditionally, this revelry would have gone on for days but for the attack. Afterwards, it was days before I could persuade my eldest daughter to leave the house, such was her terror of fire from the skies.
The strike left a stark lesson in its wake not just in my village, but across Hadramout and wider Yemen. The lesson, I am afraid, is that neither the current U.S. or Yemeni administrations bother to distinguish friend from foe. In speech after speech after the attack, community leaders stood and said: if Salem was not safe, none of us are.
Your silence in the face of these injustices only makes matters worse. If the strike was a mistake, the family like all wrongly bereaved families of this secret air war deserve a formal apology.
To this day I wish no vengeance against the United States or Yemeni governments. But not everyone in Yemen feels the same. Every dead innocent swells the ranks of those you are fighting.
All Yemen has begun to take notice of drones and they object. Only this month, Yemen's National Dialogue Conference, a quasi-Constitutional Convention which I understand the U.S. underwrites, almost unanimously voted to prohibit the unregulated use of drones in our country.
With respect, you cannot continue to behave as if innocent deaths like those in my family are irrelevant. If the Yemeni and American Presidents refuse to engage with overwhelming popular sentiment in Yemen, you will defeat your own counter-terrorism aims.
Thank you for your consideration. I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
Yours Sincerely,
Faisal bin Ali Jaber
Sana'a, Yemen
Dear President Obama and President Hadi
My name is Faisal bin Ali Jaber. I am a Yemeni engineer from Hadramout, employed by Yemen's equivalent of the Environmental Protection Agency. I am writing today because I read in the news that you will be meeting in the White House on Thursday, August 1, to discuss the "counter-terrorism partnership" between the US and Yemen.
My family has personally experienced this partnership. A year ago this August, a drone strike in my ancestral village killed my brother-in-law, Salem bin Ali Jaber, and my twenty-one-year-old nephew, Waleed.
President Obama, you said in a recent speech that the United States is "at war with an organisation that right now would kill as many Americans as they could if we did not stop them first." This war against al-Qa'ida, you added, "is a just war - a war waged proportionally, in last resort, and in self-defense."
President Hadi, on a trip to the United States last September, you claimed that "every operation [in Yemen], before taking place, [has] permission from the president." You also asserted that "the drone technologically is more advanced than the human brain".
Why, then, last August, did you both send drones to attack my innocent brother-in-law and nephew? Our family are not your enemy. In fact, the people you killed had strongly and publicly opposed al-Qa'ida. Salem was an imam. The Friday before his death, he gave a guest sermon in the Khashamir mosque denouncing al-Qa'ida's hateful ideology. It was not the first of these sermons, but regrettably, it was his last.
In months of grieving, my family have received no acknowledgement or apology from the U.S. or Yemen. We've struggled to square our tragedy with the words in your speeches.
How was this "self-defense"? My family worried that militants would target Salem for his sermons. We never anticipated his death would come from above, at the hands of the United States. In his death you lost a potential ally in fact, because word of the killing spread immediately through the region, I fear you have lost thousands.
How was this "in last resort"? Our town was no battlefield. We had no warning our local police were never asked to make any arrest. My young nephew Waleed was a policeman, before the strike cut short his life.
How was this "proportionate"? The strike devastated our community. The day before the strike, Khashamir buzzed with celebrations for my eldest son's wedding. Our wedding videos show Salem and young Waleed in a crowd of dancing revellers, joining the celebration. Traditionally, this revelry would have gone on for days but for the attack. Afterwards, it was days before I could persuade my eldest daughter to leave the house, such was her terror of fire from the skies.
The strike left a stark lesson in its wake not just in my village, but across Hadramout and wider Yemen. The lesson, I am afraid, is that neither the current U.S. or Yemeni administrations bother to distinguish friend from foe. In speech after speech after the attack, community leaders stood and said: if Salem was not safe, none of us are.
Your silence in the face of these injustices only makes matters worse. If the strike was a mistake, the family like all wrongly bereaved families of this secret air war deserve a formal apology.
To this day I wish no vengeance against the United States or Yemeni governments. But not everyone in Yemen feels the same. Every dead innocent swells the ranks of those you are fighting.
All Yemen has begun to take notice of drones and they object. Only this month, Yemen's National Dialogue Conference, a quasi-Constitutional Convention which I understand the U.S. underwrites, almost unanimously voted to prohibit the unregulated use of drones in our country.
With respect, you cannot continue to behave as if innocent deaths like those in my family are irrelevant. If the Yemeni and American Presidents refuse to engage with overwhelming popular sentiment in Yemen, you will defeat your own counter-terrorism aims.
Thank you for your consideration. I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
Yours Sincerely,
Faisal bin Ali Jaber
Sana'a, Yemen
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UPDATED: See Post #58... Jesus... :( :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: [View all]
WillyT
Aug 2013
OP
The reason we can't is they have done a truly effective job of dehumianizing over a billion
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#5
When you're defending the indefensible, you cannot look at what it is you are really defending.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#8
Agreed. And they have effectively enacted an out right BAN on any of our WAR IMAGES
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#7
Maybe ordinary people need to do it themselves. I remember someone leaving fliers in super
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#12
Yes. It really is up to us these days, and with the internet, we do have a lot more power
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#15
I never saw any ban on war photos, so long as they had a warning in the headline.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#19
Combine that with the fact that the spoiled kids of the middle-, upper-middle and upper
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#37
Photos of My Lai and a little girl running naked down the road after being hit with
matthews
Aug 2013
#41
or "taqiyya gay-killing woman-stoning superstitionists who secretly want to take over the world"
MisterP
Aug 2013
#45
It is a truly sad letter. But as he points and it is a fact, the more innocent people they kill
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#14
It's as if a rabbi is begging for dignified consideration from the nazis
Luminous Animal
Aug 2013
#24
One thing is for sure, he will not receive any response to his plea. I hate to do so,
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#26
This war "is a just war - a war waged proportionally, in last resort, and in self-defense."
progressoid
Aug 2013
#18
Guys, it's okay when WE do it. It's not like we are Republicans or something. nt
Demo_Chris
Aug 2013
#25
Thanks, I almost forgot. Drones don't kill people as dead as they did when Bush was doing it.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#27
'Making terrorists faster than we can kill them' was a bumper-sticker during the * regime, it seems
Mnemosyne
Aug 2013
#28
It's like General William Westmoreland has been rehabilitated and his strategy
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#38