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In reply to the discussion: Some facts on dropping the two bombs [View all]Th1onein
(8,514 posts)77. I don't think that you are correct.
http://hnn.us/articles/129964.html
Walter Trohan, a reporter for the Chicago Tribune with impeccable credentials for integrity and accuracy, reported that two days before President Roosevelt left for the Yalta conference with Churchill and Stalin in early February 1945, he was shown a forty-page memorandum drafted by General MacArthur outlining a Japanese offer for surrender almost identical with the terms subsequently concluded by his successor, President Truman. The single difference was the Japanese insistence on retention of the emperor, which was not acceptable to the American strategists at the time, though it was ultimately allowed in the final peace terms. Trohan relates that he was given a copy of this communication by Admiral Leahy who swore him to secrecy with the pledge not to release the story until the war was over. Trohan honored his pledge and reported his story in the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald on August 19, 1945. According to historian Anthony Kubek, Roosevelt, in the presence of witnesses, read the memorandum and dismissed it with a curt "MacArthur is our greatest general and our poorest politician." [1]
Specifically, the terms of the Japanese peace offers of late January 1945 were as follows:
Full surrender of the Japanese forces, air, land and sea, at home and in all occupied countries.
Surrender of all arms and ammunition.
Agreement of the Japanese to occupation of their homeland and island possessions.
Relinquishment of Manchuria, Korea and Formosa.
Regulation of Japanese industry.
Surrender of designated war criminals for trial.
Release of all prisoners.
Other than retention of the emperor these terms were identical to the final surrender terms. Harry Elmer Barnes, in his essay Hiroshima: Assault on a Beaten Foe, published in the May 10, 1958 issue of the National Review, tells the same story.
Walter Trohan, a reporter for the Chicago Tribune with impeccable credentials for integrity and accuracy, reported that two days before President Roosevelt left for the Yalta conference with Churchill and Stalin in early February 1945, he was shown a forty-page memorandum drafted by General MacArthur outlining a Japanese offer for surrender almost identical with the terms subsequently concluded by his successor, President Truman. The single difference was the Japanese insistence on retention of the emperor, which was not acceptable to the American strategists at the time, though it was ultimately allowed in the final peace terms. Trohan relates that he was given a copy of this communication by Admiral Leahy who swore him to secrecy with the pledge not to release the story until the war was over. Trohan honored his pledge and reported his story in the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald on August 19, 1945. According to historian Anthony Kubek, Roosevelt, in the presence of witnesses, read the memorandum and dismissed it with a curt "MacArthur is our greatest general and our poorest politician." [1]
Specifically, the terms of the Japanese peace offers of late January 1945 were as follows:
Full surrender of the Japanese forces, air, land and sea, at home and in all occupied countries.
Surrender of all arms and ammunition.
Agreement of the Japanese to occupation of their homeland and island possessions.
Relinquishment of Manchuria, Korea and Formosa.
Regulation of Japanese industry.
Surrender of designated war criminals for trial.
Release of all prisoners.
Other than retention of the emperor these terms were identical to the final surrender terms. Harry Elmer Barnes, in his essay Hiroshima: Assault on a Beaten Foe, published in the May 10, 1958 issue of the National Review, tells the same story.
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It was the first time in history the vast majority of Japanese people had ever heard his voice.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2013
#32
The people of Hiroshima were busy ripping down their own homes, digging bunkers
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2013
#48
I'd sign the Szilárd petition then nail it to the totem pole you squat on everyday here.
miyazaki
Aug 2013
#41
Nadine, they were negotiating peace with us before we dropped the bomb on them.
Th1onein
Aug 2013
#60
Incidentally, we risked lives and the success of the mission to warn civilians out of the cities.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2013
#54
If the US hadn't used them first, somebody would have wanted to use them later.
reformist2
Aug 2013
#55
#4: an airburst at 10,000 ft is pretty much the opposite of "targeting". n/t
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#70
You're right about the altitude, but from 1950 or from 10,000, precision is not the main benefit
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#75
THE DECISION TO USE THE ATOMIC BOMB - For those looking for more than the status quo opinion
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#73