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BlueStreak

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67. This is all a dance. The players know their roles

Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:29 PM

Aug 2013

If the administration didn't want that info out there, they would make that clear. It is obvious for all to see what is going on.

Three are good leaks and there are bad leaks. As far as the administration is concerned, this is one of the good leaks. It saved their bacon. Before they rolled out this "Cheney maneuver", they were losing the NSA debate and losing it badly. There was a very real chance that Liberals and Tea Party types were going to come together to finally agree on something. and that would potentially have shut down half of the dark operations.

That is at least $100 billion / year of dark, unaccountable money at stake. They couldn't have that. This "good leak" did the trick.

I don't care to debate it with you. I don't learn anything from your unconditional support of this administration's superficial actions.

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Imagine if Edward Snowden had revealed this: [View all] BlueStreak Aug 2013 OP

who would ever assume that the administration is being completely honest and forthright with us? ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #1

The OP is just another conspiracy theory. McClatchy news service pnwmom Aug 2013 #62

Worse, it's an Issa like smear job from a hater. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #65

And unfortunately government lying wasn't invented by the previous administration marshall Aug 2013 #75

Very true ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #84

Those are the reasons IMO this whole terror spiel is bullshit. Autumn Aug 2013 #2

We owned Al-Qaeda Hydra Aug 2013 #3

To be fair to Obama, it may be out of his hands BlueStreak Aug 2013 #4

He could always make the choice to do the right thing Hydra Aug 2013 #6

How would this go, exactly? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #7

Two words. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #30

I didn't want to say that, you know, because the grassy knoll guys are listening in BlueStreak Aug 2013 #35

And it smells of Republicans Life Long Dem Aug 2013 #60

Al Qaeda is the boogey-man du jour, an invention of our government. nt valerief Aug 2013 #69

They had to be invented. There was no more Soviet Union......nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #74

Exactly! And we're quickly becoming the crumbling, oppressive USSR our teevees (if you're old valerief Aug 2013 #83

Yes. I just asked No Elelephants, "When will they go FULL NAZI on us?" Enthusiast Aug 2013 #86

I'm sure the 3000 people who died at the WTC will be relieved to learn this nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #85

Unfortunately, they'll never know who's responsible for the bombing, valerief Aug 2013 #87

I think the government should inform the public more, not less Bacchus4.0 Aug 2013 #5

Ah, so if they have intelligence they shouldn't act on it to protect Americans & other foreign KittyWampus Aug 2013 #8

They shouldn't "act on it" by telling al Qaeda exactly what we know The point is BlueStreak Aug 2013 #10

derp. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #17

They made sure they briefed enough Senators that would all run out blabbing about it BlueStreak Aug 2013 #36

You've already shown that you are immune to facts and reason. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #73

Did they condemn Saxby Chambliss? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #76

Chambliss revealed no specifics or operational details. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #79

They do this to prevent attacks, if they know we know it may lessen the threat. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #46

And obviously it was some big secret that we make attempts to intercept treestar Aug 2013 #88

Far from the only possible conclusion. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #9

What would I rather do? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #11

You would still kill foreign nationals. I guess they don't count in your book. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #12

You can do this quietly without it having to be top secret BlueStreak Aug 2013 #38

Go ahead and run for President in 2016 if you think you can do better. randome Aug 2013 #13

On what basis did you conclude that it was the Obama administration geek tragedy Aug 2013 #15

What administration WOULD it have been? The bush administration? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #41

McClatchy got it from someone in Yemen. Didn't even discuss it with the USG. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #58

Why dont you just say, "It aint Obama's fault." and leave it at that? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #71

Facts matter. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #72

Open-minded people are skeptical. People that are certain they know the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #77

No, people who know the facts know the facts. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #78

And only you know the REAL facts. Open-minded people realize that things are rarely rhett o rick Aug 2013 #80

There are certainly areas where fact and opinion blend together. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #81

Didnt you claim that Snowden gave secrets to China? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #82

Shorter BlueStreak: "I make shit up so that means Obama is the liar" geek tragedy Aug 2013 #14

Yes. The administration has been out there talking about it. They are clearly happy BlueStreak Aug 2013 #42

THEY ASKED CNN AND THE NY TIMES TO NOT PUBLISH IT. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #56

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #70

McClatchy: "Our story was based on reporting in Yemen and we did not contact the administration geek tragedy Aug 2013 #16

Damn! You'd make a fine reporter, geek! randome Aug 2013 #18

It's amazing what happens when one uses Google instead of speculating blindly. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #22

The power of logic woo me with science Aug 2013 #19

Obama Derangement Syndrome is not logic. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #20

Reading comprehension is important, too. pnwmom Aug 2013 #39

If legit, this alert has revealed "sources and methods" bigtime, flagrantly. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #21

Leak did not come from Obama administration, came from Yemen. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #23

That's where, not who. nt Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #24

Wasn't from Obama administration. Other sources sat on the information geek tragedy Aug 2013 #25

That still doesn't say who provided it to McClatchey. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #29

The administration asked other news agencies to not report it. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #31

It's not a leak when the target already knows about it. It's reporting. leveymg Aug 2013 #32

Semantics. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #33

A Yemeni official, according to McClatchy News Service. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #50

Show me one quote where anybody in this administration has condemned the leak BlueStreak Aug 2013 #43

It wasn't a "leak" so there is nothing to condemn. pnwmom Aug 2013 #49

The administration approves -- almost as if they put it out there themselves. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #52

They're not going to "condemn" a "leaker" in Yemen pnwmom Aug 2013 #54

It's not a leak. A foreign national told is the source. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #66

The OP presupposes that al Qaeda (and other terrorists) are stupid. baldguy Aug 2013 #40

+1 million darkangel218 Aug 2013 #26

Or ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #27

The US didn't release this info--they asked media outlets to not publish it nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #28

LOL. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #34

Sorry reality contradicts your Glenn Beckian warped fantasies. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #57

Show me a single quote where they condemned any news source for publishing BlueStreak Aug 2013 #44

The NY Times and CNN withheld the information at the government's request. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #55

This is garbage. The US didn't reveal this -- McClatchy news service did, after learning pnwmom Aug 2013 #37

Show me one citation where anybody in the administration has condemned this BlueStreak Aug 2013 #45

Why would they try MClatchy for treason? They didn't try even Manning for treason, and Manning, pnwmom Aug 2013 #48

OK. Show me one quote from any administration official that even vaguely expresses: BlueStreak Aug 2013 #51

What effect would such a quote have had? They spoke privately to the news media involved, pnwmom Aug 2013 #53

" Show me a quote that expressed any disapproval whatsoever with the release" geek tragedy Aug 2013 #61

BS. Where is the administration condeming this? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #63

Dishonest moving of the goalposts on your part. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #64

This is all a dance. The players know their roles BlueStreak Aug 2013 #67

No, I am just capable of basic logic. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #68

If they administration did so, you'd just say that was part of the plan treestar Aug 2013 #89

They got it from a foreign government/source. No one to prosecute. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #59

'assuming they are actually telling us the truth', which I don't believe for a second they are. KG Aug 2013 #47