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20. jury results

Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:18 PM

Aug 2013

tells you something about this site

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: I don't see the value in this post. Hide it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This is a long time duer. He is not a race troll. As a woman, I am well aware that this post is right on. The alert must be coming from the very whiney white person the post is addressing. Maybe instead of a false outrage, the poster ought to take the lesson to heart.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Although I don't like the post, I just don't think it's over the top. I've seen much worse said in other posts that haven't been taken down.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: White whiny people DO need to STFU!

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Dear Whiny White People: Great rant from a Native American Facebook friend [View all] HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 OP

I find that outrageously dumb and unproductive in moving along race relations in this country Kurska Aug 2013 #1

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #2

Well goodbye I guess n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #3

please heaven05 Aug 2013 #29

This isn't a pissing match FreeState Aug 2013 #33

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #43

Not all LGBT folks have their rights. I can marry here in NY but not in MS. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #44

yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #48

So there are no black gays? FreeState Aug 2013 #69

+1 hrmjustin Aug 2013 #71

of heaven05 Aug 2013 #97

of Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #116

yep...and some may not be able to vote noiretextatique Aug 2013 #215

Yep. There's racism in the LGBT community, just as there Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #313

thank you. it disturbs me noiretextatique Aug 2013 #361

no heaven05 Aug 2013 #228

Actually, that's not historically correct theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #102

yeah heaven05 Aug 2013 #108

We're in this together theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #146

exactly heaven05 Aug 2013 #151

Sure. But it has been much easier for them to assimilate Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #314

Never said it wasn't theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #387

This ham-fisted message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Aug 2013 #90

Did you forget the sarcasm button? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Aug 2013 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Zorra Aug 2013 #405

Clueless. Females only got the vote in 1920. 18 year olds only in 1971. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #112

Halfway there quakerboy Aug 2013 #147

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #229

my recollection was, in the early days of this country there were property requirements steve2470 Aug 2013 #232

But again, they were not disenfranchised for being white, nor for being male. quakerboy Aug 2013 #240

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #222

you Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #230

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #239

Of all the issues we face today you focus on... sheshe2 Feb 2017 #409

Of all the issues we face today you reanimate a zombie thread from 2013. 3 and a 1/2 years ago. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #410

You're forgetting about us black females. We didn't get our Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #318

please DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #198

true heaven05 Aug 2013 #223

Neither do people of color who are also LGBT. Not even close! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #312

You might be ignorant of the history nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #98

ok heaven05 Aug 2013 #124

And we welcomed out neighbors with open arms nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #132

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #138

Yes, it's been about race nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #143

oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #149

Father... That said, remain vigilant is what we all need to do nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #158

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #160

The war on drugs has really done a number nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #162

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #166

In the end I see one in Mexico nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #169

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #171

"Some are" joeybee12 Aug 2013 #379

no heaven05 Aug 2013 #380

I don't think heaven05 is ignorant of this history at all. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #316

You know what is so funny about what you just posted nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #320

I actually agree with what you have to say. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #326

Not British accent nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #327

oops! I misread this. Thanks. And that was a great read... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #336

I did heaven05 Aug 2013 #383

One more thing... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #341

I see it a tad like the history of the holocaust nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #344

And they know their numbers are dwindling, so they Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #360

It is not just the republicans trying to create division nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #365

Interesting. I have to think more about this. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #370

Scott peters voted to get rid of Obamacare nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #371

bravo heaven05 Aug 2013 #381

Yeah. I see what you're saying here. Some valid points. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #394

No, the electorate never was nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #396

I don't think so, either, but I do think that some kind Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #397

In my bones I feel we are close nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #398

I work for the federal government and our union was able to Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #407

bravo heaven05 Aug 2013 #382

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #390

I was raised in Atlanta and he was my congressman. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #392

Indeed nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #393

Thanks. I appreciate that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #395

Speaking of keeping "the other" under their thumbs Generic Other Aug 2013 #389

It is a place to start nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #391

Yeah my experience as a gay person is much less valuable than that of people of color Kurska Aug 2013 #104

Never heaven05 Aug 2013 #114

You just said "You got your LGBT rights and voice" Kurska Aug 2013 #117

okay heaven05 Aug 2013 #144

I appear to have misunderstood this post n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #145

I meant heaven05 Aug 2013 #156

Well that is at least better n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #168

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #173

I'd say the most important thing about fighting is fighting smart. Kurska Aug 2013 #174

this heaven05 Aug 2013 #177

Apology accepted. I also communicated in way that were, in retrospect, less than respectful Kurska Aug 2013 #179

Kurska, to you and heavan05, Sissyk Aug 2013 #213

Agreed. We should stop comparing injustices and listen Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #322

What an outrageous comment. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #110

whatever heaven05 Aug 2013 #113

You backed it up with this pathetic gem. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #122

I am pretty certain that everybody around her is upset at what's going on as far as voting rights el_bryanto Aug 2013 #119

Should be the question. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #127

NCTraveler, heaven05 had already resolved these disagreements Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #334

Look at the time stamp on my post. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #342

I meant "their" disagreements. Thanks anyway. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #358

You mean this CRACKER on SCOTUS and friends? Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #185

yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #189

Hey thats a start, here is another quote, it may surprise you as to said it. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #199

yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #221

I must admit they do look mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #225

I find it a refreshing history course. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #234

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #265

need a refresher course. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #331

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #335

your outrage at the word 'cracker', AlbertCat Aug 2013 #340

????? heaven05 Aug 2013 #348

I'm sorry I confused you with facts. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #355

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #357

you seem to be projecting, for real. LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #374

cannot heaven05 Aug 2013 #378

Precisely. Minorities are always just sopped to let it go, move on and get over it. brewens Aug 2013 #303

One side is racist to the core malaise Aug 2013 #47

yeah heaven05 Aug 2013 #50

Thank you for this. Thank you very much. LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #154

What "sides" are there? Besides the racist side and the (ostensibly) non-racist side? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #159

Because STFU is the WORST thing mentioned in the OP. valerief Aug 2013 #307

Unproductive? Debatable. Truthful? No contest. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #353

He was smart to specify "by people of colour" Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #4

do white people outside of the aryan brotherhood really think they are all the same loli phabay Aug 2013 #5

Shhh, white people are all the same and no white person has ever been treated unfairly by society Kurska Aug 2013 #7

it's heaven05 Aug 2013 #45

it's Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #115

no heaven05 Aug 2013 #190

no Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #197

Not true. The Republicans are trying to suppress the voting rights of poor people of all totodeinhere Aug 2013 #183

really? heaven05 Aug 2013 #187

I already said people of all races who are poor. Restricting voting totodeinhere Aug 2013 #191

I'm heaven05 Aug 2013 #224

No. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #411

with the relevant qualifier 'systematically" it's rather accurate. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #66

You must not know much about the history of Irish in America Kurska Aug 2013 #109

European Jews weren't considered to be white in the early part of the 20th century BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #135

Was that sign universal? I don't consider any Irish or Irish descentants to be victims. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #155

Irish people weren't considered "white" at the time. Neither were Italians, Jews, Greeks, etc. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #172

You have to make the biggest possible grouping you can think of Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #9

yet heaven05 Aug 2013 #60

you know something i forgot that discussing stuff with people with bigoted views loli phabay Aug 2013 #68

Here, here! nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #373

I'm sure the Aaryan Brotherhood would argue that all white people are not equal BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #136

yup point was that white people dont think of themselves as a monolith loli phabay Aug 2013 #139

Even Native Americans do not think of themselves as a monolith, or in need of a spokesman. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #150

i have always found that people identify themselves at a very local level loli phabay Aug 2013 #153

I'll bet you 99% of the folks on DU theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #15

+1 Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #19

oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #37

1775 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #49

oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #56

I was just 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #74

all heaven05 Aug 2013 #79

His post is part of the Problem 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #83

white heaven05 Aug 2013 #231

That is my Point 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #280

Bravo! heaven05 Aug 2013 #282

Proud to Serve 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #292

history epic fail loli phabay Aug 2013 #54

How do you figure that? BainsBane Oct 2013 #408

It must be comforting to live in a bubble completely devoid of historic knowledge Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #62

yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #72

Oh really? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #77

Well heaven05 Aug 2013 #82

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #84

so its a sins of the father thing. you know i bet nobody on du had anything to do with slavery loli phabay Aug 2013 #78

Yes Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #86

I am married and I am no slave. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #243

spare heaven05 Aug 2013 #93

yes i am sure you have enough in abundance so i am done with you. loli phabay Aug 2013 #99

It's seems that your entire self worth... Sotf Aug 2013 #246

well heaven05 Aug 2013 #266

Referring to anyone specific? Sotf Aug 2013 #269

hmmmm heaven05 Aug 2013 #271

Seems to be leaning towards the latter... Sotf Aug 2013 #273

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #81

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #91

You might want to read on the freedom Riders nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #106

schwener chaney goodwin heaven05 Aug 2013 #111

That is a scared minority of people, who are your and my enemy, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #123

no heaven05 Aug 2013 #128

Actually it does equate in many ways. blackspade Aug 2013 #121

relieved heaven05 Aug 2013 #131

Very few Highlanders had much in the way of guns or power. blackspade Aug 2013 #175

yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #184

Remember, too, the Disarming Act which some families do but apparently not by history teachers. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #210

Agreed. But some people seem to willfully conflate discrimination-for-other-reasons against people nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #192

+ 1,000,000 Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #268

"No Irish Need Apply" nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #157

Well, sheep gotta live somewhere REP Aug 2013 #211

Yup mac56 Aug 2013 #52

Arguably, the most asinine post I've ever seen on DU badtoworse Aug 2013 #6

+1 Isn't race baiting more a freerepublic thing? n/t Kurska Aug 2013 #8

I thought so.. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #130

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #64

Hatred is hatred. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #10

We cannot though. Can't you see? hfojvt Aug 2013 #36

Yeah...seems that way. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #39

? heaven05 Aug 2013 #279

It won't be possible to forgive and forget in this country until the unfairness no longer exists. sybylla Aug 2013 #96

That's your opinion. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #141

+1 n/t area51 Aug 2013 #245

bubble living heaven05 Aug 2013 #281

Okay... Wait Wut Aug 2013 #298

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #302

K&R! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #11

Two racist words do not cancel each other out and make it right. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #12

Are we arguing about crackers again? Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #13

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #14

Yeah, because those are the exact same things. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #16

As a NYer I have never heard the term here. I do however find it offensive. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #25

But that's your problem. Offence can't be given, only taken. nt mr blur Aug 2013 #41

OK. Well I am offended by the word. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #42

Can we really "allow" someone to be offended? marshall Aug 2013 #17

Things that make DU suck Aerows Aug 2013 #18

Hit a nerve, huh? Zoeisright Aug 2013 #242

jury results markiv Aug 2013 #20

Was somebody complaining? malthaussen Aug 2013 #21

Nobody's offended by "cracker." Iggo Aug 2013 #22

Well, that clears things up. Flatulo Aug 2013 #23

I am responsible only for my own actions. hamsterjill Aug 2013 #24

especially if your ancestors weren't a part of it either markiv Aug 2013 #26

"I will do my part while I live on this earth to make sure that I never further those." brush Aug 2013 #46

LOL... So one here is allowed (or not) to take part in certain behaviors based... yawnmaster Aug 2013 #27

not the first time that's been proposed on this site markiv Aug 2013 #30

Just another riff for the musical bar fight BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #28

hey heaven05 Aug 2013 #31

It's the white people who are whining here? XemaSab Aug 2013 #248

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #262

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #328

oh boy heaven05 Aug 2013 #330

Riddle me this: XemaSab Aug 2013 #367

of course not heaven05 Aug 2013 #368

I am offended by the word 'cracker' Wolf Frankula Aug 2013 #32

aww heaven05 Aug 2013 #263

I don't see the problem with this Xyzse Aug 2013 #34

done heaven05 Aug 2013 #264

LoL Xyzse Aug 2013 #272

the greatest leaders in race relations, have markiv Aug 2013 #35

there heaven05 Aug 2013 #38

On the other hand Warpy Aug 2013 #40

Blah. Facebook rants. (nt) Inkfreak Aug 2013 #51

+1 and my I add that the replies here are ummm interesting azurnoir Aug 2013 #53

So as a white person - how shitty should I feel, in your opinion? nt el_bryanto Aug 2013 #57

apparently you missed my point azurnoir Aug 2013 #59

The OP is about how White People should be fine being called Crackers, right? el_bryanto Aug 2013 #61

well your quite welcome to your outrage here azurnoir Aug 2013 #65

you know that everyone is in that boat, not every white person comes from one national line loli phabay Aug 2013 #63

That was my point most Whites I know identify as azurnoir Aug 2013 #67

you should add most people of african extraction who come from slaves loli phabay Aug 2013 #75

I already did that in the post you first replied to azurnoir Aug 2013 #76

sorry i missed that, though i still disagree with you respectively loli phabay Aug 2013 #80

Unless the country of their ancestors tried to exterminate them oberliner Aug 2013 #85

still and none the less they can identify which country that was ETA azurnoir Aug 2013 #87

No idea what you are saying oberliner Aug 2013 #214

and your was? you alluded to those immigrants that arrived later in the 20th century azurnoir Aug 2013 #216

Mine was not everyone identifies with the country they came from oberliner Aug 2013 #217

but we're not talking about direct 1rst generation immigrants azurnoir Aug 2013 #219

Or 2nd or 3rd oberliner Aug 2013 #220

oh heaven05 Aug 2013 #284

Was he drunk when he posted it? Egnever Aug 2013 #55

hopefully as he can sober up, stupid is for life loli phabay Aug 2013 #103

the heaven05 Aug 2013 #286

I am offended by LWolf Aug 2013 #58

I'm a white dude and my "people" were kidnapped and sold into slavery by people of color AngryAmish Aug 2013 #70

Sure, if you still suffer under society-side systematic race-based discrimination Orrex Aug 2013 #88

i liked this one that I saw yesterday Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #73

Testify brother! Generic Other Aug 2013 #89

I prefer Ritz myself. DRoseDARs Aug 2013 #94

Would it be too hard for people Union Scribe Aug 2013 #95

bingo for the win, seems its difficult for people with issues loli phabay Aug 2013 #101

Except for honkies. Orrex Aug 2013 #105

No, it would not be too hard for people to just not refer to anyone by racial pejoratives, unless... Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #120

AMEN! JAbuchan08 Aug 2013 #233

wow heaven05 Aug 2013 #289

So because someone was mistreated, I should like having epithets applied to me? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #107

To the author of this piece. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #118

"concentrate on caring for yourself" Enthusiast Aug 2013 #167

Who would be offended by cracker... ileus Aug 2013 #125

when you can prove that I did one of those things I will STFU. Until then YOU can STFU! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #126

When someone calls me a name, I find that if I simply ignore it, Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #129

Nice post, tuba-nose. Orrex Aug 2013 #133

lol some of my ancestors are Irish LittleBlue Aug 2013 #134

Lots of outrage from the privileged in here mwrguy Aug 2013 #137

lots of conflating and projecting privilege for righteous outrage... LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #161

No kidding! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #164

Seriously. Figured as much from the response count alone, sadly. Posteritatis Aug 2013 #186

I still love this bit... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #188

Even John Brown's descendants? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #140

see heaven05 Aug 2013 #142

K&R! Yay! STFU! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #148

Dear Fellow Native American Short Sighted Guy: There are chains worse than iron links... LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #152

If you want to take offense at the word "cracker" then be my guest. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #163

I take offense at ALL racial pejoratives, and at anyone's attempt to marginalize ANY racial LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #170

I'm not trying to "marginalize" anyone - except perhaps racist white conservatives - nor do I have nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #176

racist white conservatives, eh? smh. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #201

I did not say or imply that you were in that group. Considering you're on DU, I'd wager you aren't. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #203

You would be correct in THAT assumption for sure. Best to describe people who think LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #204

Okay, I see your point. And yes, there are instances where I would strategically avoid the "r-word" nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #205

White women pipi_k Aug 2013 #276

But discrimination against women has been part of American society from the beginning. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #352

oh boy heaven05 Aug 2013 #290

oh lord. LaydeeBug Aug 2013 #372

dumb/stupid HiPointDem Aug 2013 #164

How true... HipChick Aug 2013 #178

I have native ancestors that traveled the Trail of Tears as well as black ancestors sunwyn Aug 2013 #180

I'm not pipi_k Aug 2013 #212

Turning the common people against sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #181

Great rant. I agree as I am an advocate of Native Americans. n/t RebelOne Aug 2013 #182

it's pronounced Cracka not cracker duh!!!!! Heather MC Aug 2013 #193

lol heaven05 Aug 2013 #291

You must have some very deep scars to be filled with so much hate. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #194

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #295

No, I have not forgot any of that. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #369

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #376

You are not alone, My Brother... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #195

When I see a title like that I just tune it out rl6214 Aug 2013 #196

Agreed, Flame bait trolls, post and run! Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #200

The OP since started another thread and has yet to post in this one. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #253

Well, I can see the pipi_k Aug 2013 #202

The OP had nothing to do with justifying the term "cracker." nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #207

The OP posted when they are afraid or unable to return to engage in discussion. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #208

But what's so terrible about the OP? What was posted that isn't factual? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #209

except the OP doesn't make that distinction JAbuchan08 Aug 2013 #235

I was mostly with you until I got to the phrase "predictable self-flagellators." nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #236

Persecution pipi_k Aug 2013 #275

I really don't think the guy's advocating pointlessly insulting people. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #354

Wow, how annoying Android3.14 Aug 2013 #206

you nailed that one. Chaco Dundee Aug 2013 #218

This should make you proud you mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #226

Finally, someone willing to admit that someone else can tell you you CAN'T be offended by something! hughee99 Aug 2013 #227

Always SO nice to be told what to like and dislike exlrrp Aug 2013 #237

What a rude asshole... Sotf Aug 2013 #238

The OP posted and won't discuss. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #252

The OP doesn't heaven05 Aug 2013 #300

Count your words in this thread. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #305

I agree with the sentiment but seriously... all people are of color. gtar100 Aug 2013 #241

What about this guy? Sotf Aug 2013 #255

I can see by the posts in this thread this is quite the grown up conversation. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #244

This is an ugly, poisinous OP Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #247

Who the fuck rec'd this turd? XemaSab Aug 2013 #249

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10023422027&info=1#recs Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #251

Native Americans and Irish: XemaSab Aug 2013 #250

I am not offeneded by the word cracker, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #254

Obama is divisive: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #256

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #257

fighting hate with Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #258

A bigot is a bigot shawn703 Aug 2013 #259

... In_The_Wind Aug 2013 #260

You STFU..... BrainDrain Aug 2013 #261

Not helpful treestar Aug 2013 #267

You either are a racist or you aren't. - lynne Aug 2013 #270

see heaven05 Aug 2013 #274

You don't get it, unfortunately... pipi_k Aug 2013 #278

No heaven05 Aug 2013 #311

I didn't say pipi_k Aug 2013 #325

you're heaven05 Aug 2013 #329

Again... pipi_k Aug 2013 #339

clueless heaven05 Aug 2013 #347

I'm 1awake Aug 2013 #277

The fact that his grievances are true and accurate doesn't make this approach less counterproductive lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #283

I know, right? it's like when Feminists are shrill- why can't they make their complaints sweetly? bettyellen Aug 2013 #288

Oh, but because we were never slaves (at least not technically), we should just shut it. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #308

Yes. Exactly. Just like this. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #350

I know it can be hard to be empathetic, but people get sick and tired of hearing bettyellen Aug 2013 #359

"The tone" was the dominant element of the OP's message. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #366

except- when you have already tried saying it nicely and people blow you off, bettyellen Aug 2013 #377

I think this adequately expresses the rage minorities feel taught_me_patience Aug 2013 #285

When someone ELSE gets to tell me what should and should not offend me... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #287

the '2 wrongs make a right' school of thought seems to have markiv Aug 2013 #293

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #294

Learn the difference between descendants and ancestors HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #296

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #304

I heaven05 Aug 2013 #321

you've heaven05 Aug 2013 #319

It's clear he knows the difference. But after 24 hours with your disruptive thread you have nothing Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #332

Disruptive?? Really??? HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #345

People with honest motives only provoke discussions if they are ready to participate. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #346

Since I posted this a little after 12:30 yesterday HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #349

Then post divisive threads when you are actually available to discuss them. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #356

You say divisive thread, I say spirited discussion HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #362

I don't heaven05 Aug 2013 #385

your heaven05 Aug 2013 #317

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #297

"why heaven05 Aug 2013 #323

Hmm, could a "lunch counter protest" be in order? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #333

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #337

Excellent anecdotes and examples. Thanks for the updates. True about the unequal responses. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #338

Actually heaven05 Aug 2013 #388

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #399

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #299

Well you do benefit from White Privilege every day el_bryanto Aug 2013 #315

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #324

Ok. But why is it important that white people suppress a natural reaction to an insult? RZM Aug 2013 #301

Racial epitaph justified... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #306

I think you mean epithet. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #351

The 1968 Beatles song 'Revolution' warned markiv Aug 2013 #309

K&R! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #310

All ethnic slurs suck AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #343

+1. That's why the OP's post is divisive and disruptive. But he or she can't see that. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #363

I find I don't fit undergroundpanther Aug 2013 #364

Basing your opinions of stuff that happened to your ancestors is stupid Taitertots Aug 2013 #375

still heaven05 Aug 2013 #386

Are you really going to try to conflate the Trayvon Martin case with slavery and the civil rights... Taitertots Aug 2013 #403

you heaven05 Aug 2013 #404

I wouldn't personally take offense if 'cracker' were directed at me. WatermelonRat Aug 2013 #384

400th reply Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #400

Oh and I suggest Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #401

As a "whiny white" person with Native American blood flvegan Aug 2013 #402

This rant "offends" me more than the word cracker ever has... penultimate Aug 2013 #406