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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
60. Another aspect of this is the effect on careers!
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:55 PM
Aug 2013

This is from one of my journal posts back in the ancient days of 2010:

First a quote from the New York Times article:

Where you start out in your career has a big impact on where you end up. When jobs are scarce, more college grads start out in lower-level jobs with lower starting salaries. Academic research suggests that for many of these graduates, that correlates to overall lower levels of career attainment and lower lifetime earnings.


Which means that:

"This is how an economy shrinks, or it's at least one way an economy shrinks, and permanently at that."

All this was from 2010; but, it seems downright prescient now; we haven't climbed out of the hole that George Bush dug for us. Sadly, our young people probably never will!

More quotes -- this time from an Atlantic article: How a New Jobless Era Will Transform America:

If it persists much longer, this era of high joblessness will likely change the life course and character of a generation of young adults—and quite possibly those of the children behind them as well. It will leave an indelible imprint on many blue-collar white men—and on white culture. It could change the nature of modern marriage, and also cripple marriage as an institution in many communities. It may already be plunging many inner cities into a kind of despair and dysfunction not seen for decades. Ultimately, it is likely to warp our politics, our culture, and the character of our society for years.

...........//snip

The effects are going to passed down from one generation to another, if nothing is done. There is much talk about our children "inheriting" the federal deficit. But if our children inherit the jobs deficit and its consequences, they will have much less of a chance at dealing with the other deficit or any number of other challenges. With the loss of employment and income comes a loss of a host of opportunities that previous generations have inherited from their middle class parents. The decline in the workforce makes it inevitable that state and local governments will make cuts in everything from education to social services that have long helped make up at least some of the difference for children of needy families -- providing, if nothing else, an education and often the full stomach needed to take advantage of the opportunity.

What our children will inherit is fewer opportunities to do as well as or better than their parents. In fact, their children will likely do worse than their parents, as they will not only have fewer opportunities, but far lower expectations for themselves, based on what they see their parents struggling with. (And their parents will probably find it difficult to exhort their kids to get an education, since it will have done the parents little good to do so. The jobless economy they are graduating into now, will be little changed if the jobs deficit persists, as there will be fewer consumers, thus a lower demand for goods and services, and ultimately no need for employers to expand. If anything, it means more joblessness.

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Just Keep Voting Republican. Keeping Any Of Those GOP Maggots In Power Is A Disaster. TheMastersNemesis Aug 2013 #1
Yes. Simple as that. nt ladjf Aug 2013 #13
This is the outcome when you destroy labor unions. B Calm Aug 2013 #2
Frightening numbers there. Inkfreak Aug 2013 #3
k/r marmar Aug 2013 #4
Obama's vaunted job creation mostly low-wage, dead-end jobs. Want fries w/that? Divernan Aug 2013 #5
Even the term "Job" has lot it's meaning. "Job" used to mean: Able to get out of regular debt,... BlueJazz Aug 2013 #7
Sometimes for college grads, "job" means an unpaid opportunity to gain experience. Quantess Aug 2013 #52
... n2doc Aug 2013 #8
Newsmax allowed as a source on DU. sufrommich Aug 2013 #14
++++++++ mopinko Aug 2013 #15
100s of sources reporting same story - are there any facts you contest? Divernan Aug 2013 #17
Don't forget Amazon. JRLeft Aug 2013 #20
Owner of Amazon just bought WaPo for .25 bill. (BBC). Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #30
Newsmax always has an ulterior motive. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #38
Bullshit Bullshit Bullshsit - American Business And The GOP Are Responsible For Low Wage TheMastersNemesis Aug 2013 #51
Don't blame Obama for the fact that the Rethugs have blocked every important pnwmom Aug 2013 #57
My daughter is 20 years old. she is in college and working... SummerSnow Aug 2013 #6
I tell boomers, do not try to compare your experience with what young folk are experiencing now Skittles Aug 2013 #34
Another recent phenomenon The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #9
it's true that it's a recent phenomenon. Back to the Waltons would be fine except that magical thyme Aug 2013 #11
Hey, let's raise the retirement age again, and cut those Social Security benefits magical thyme Aug 2013 #10
While not being able to leave the parental nest probably is a bad thing there is a plus. I am living jwirr Aug 2013 #12
who decided multigenerational living was always bad? mopinko Aug 2013 #16
My uncles were raised in Honduras and lived at home until lunamagica Aug 2013 #23
I've had this conversation with my friends before. RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #27
greener, too. mopinko Aug 2013 #33
A lot of us move out or want to move out because we cannot stand our families. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #39
it's not for everyone, for sure. mopinko Aug 2013 #47
Are there no Amazons, are there no Costcos? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #18
I'm from a generation still well-educated enough to catch the allusion to Dickens Divernan Aug 2013 #19
Amazon has thousand of low wage jobs. JRLeft Aug 2013 #21
I've considered moving out during college, but... white_wolf Aug 2013 #22
What a waste... Sotf Aug 2013 #24
Lower than I would have guessed, tbh. RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #25
alas. the same is becoming true for many seasoned adults Skittles Aug 2013 #35
That's very true. HappyMe Aug 2013 #56
AS long as D.C. bows to Big Biz and does whatever they want. Rex Aug 2013 #26
My friends from Afghanistan could never wrap their head around the idea that I lived alone Recursion Aug 2013 #28
yes, it's such a utopia there Skittles Aug 2013 #36
Yes, we should embrace extended family living! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #40
I bet a lot of Afghani women wished they lived alone Skittles Aug 2013 #42
What a stupid thing to say Recursion Aug 2013 #44
Wow, that went right over your head. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #45
No Recursion Aug 2013 #46
You obviously don't know Skittles, who is a woman by the way. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #48
Edited, thanks Recursion Aug 2013 #49
with that one it always does Skittles Aug 2013 #58
i grew up with my grandmother living in our home madrchsod Aug 2013 #54
DEBT is the soul-crusher here SoCalDem Aug 2013 #29
problem with having a shitty job tabbycat31 Aug 2013 #31
kepp your head down or you'll be blacklisted, MisterP Aug 2013 #32
What is wrong with a 1962 Dodge Seneca? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #41
It was uggggggly..but it got me where I needed to go SoCalDem Aug 2013 #59
This is why we must enact the TPP. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #37
This is a very negative indicator marions ghost Aug 2013 #43
I have THE WORST example three doors up from me. Son races VERY LOUD street-cars, and drives up and WinkyDink Aug 2013 #50
it`s been that way in my family for years madrchsod Aug 2013 #53
What strikes me as one of the problems SheilaT Aug 2013 #55
Another aspect of this is the effect on careers! LongTomH Aug 2013 #60
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