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In reply to the discussion: Why on Earth should we nominate a presidential candidate who voted for war with Iraq? [View all]DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)158. And if comes down to Hillary or Christie, will you sit it out and let him get elected by default
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Why on Earth should we nominate a presidential candidate who voted for war with Iraq? [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
OP
An equivocation worthy of the Jesuits or the witches in MacBeth. Everyone at the time of the vote
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#197
So is that "it's ok because they all do it" argument? Supporting Bush's Iraq war is
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#274
Then you voted for someone who voted for the war. You don't like Hillary fine but don't pretend you
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#16
What you did. I understand you did not like the war. I lost a cousin in the war but we have other
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#22
But you will support Ms Clinton that we hoped would save us from the idiots.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#252
Yeah, millions of dead, wounded, and displaced, destabilizing the world's most volatile
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#37
So easy to forgive? There are others that dont carry the responsibility of the death
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#290
You're right, and then some. To make a complete list would take far more time than I'm
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#138
We never needed or wanted Iraqi oil. What we wanted was (to paraphrase Norman Mailer) a
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#199
yes, we have other issues. such as de-funding the MIC, *not* attacking Iran or Syria or
magical thyme
Aug 2013
#62
She did write a NY Times best seller on how the middle class is screwed
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
#162
Kerry voted for IWR and sided with weapon inspectors that military force was not needed
blm
Aug 2013
#129
And you turn your back on the tens of thousands of children that were murdered. Ms. Clinton
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#249
Yeah Ok because I support Hillary I turn my back on Tens of Thousands of Kids. Sure!
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#260
Do you accept the deaths of the Iraqis? Are you willing to forgive those responsible? nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#250
I'm no Obamabot or apologist, but I would remind you that Obama spoke out publicly
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#208
Best short explication I've read here about Dems and Iraq. Seems folks have forgotten
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#205
You said it very well. The Dems that voted to authorize Bush betrayed us. The deaths of tens of
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#275
While many of these links are dead, they illustrate the level of concern!!!
Generic Other
Aug 2013
#150
First - Why on Earth should we nominate a candidate who voted for war with Iraq?
limpyhobbler
Aug 2013
#4
If you want to go to war with Iran, you have to do some preparation work - that's why.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#56
I think it's because those who will run in the primaries are going to have to get started
Nay
Aug 2013
#67
Because (1) the ones who voted for the Iraq war will be able to peel off more Republican votes with
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#24
What apology? Yes, people can change but there is no reason to just pretend they did and move on.
TheKentuckian
Aug 2013
#54
Where I come from, we call Hillary's attitude 'arrogance' and we don't like it - nt
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#214
Everyone reading this website alone in 2002 and 3 knew the Iraq War was unjustified
burnodo
Aug 2013
#59
Keep in mind many who voted for the authorization didn't think Bush would USE IT....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2013
#28
But there was NO WAY they could have been fooled, unless they were unbelievably stupid.
Nay
Aug 2013
#125
I don't like that vote, either, Manny. In fact, it's a big check in the negative column.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2013
#45
So what it was 10 yrs ago? None of them, to my knowledge, has come out and repented in any real
Nay
Aug 2013
#127
Want to win? Run Elizabeth. Want to lose? Run Hillary and we lose even if she wins.
Scuba
Aug 2013
#50
Want to win this election and appoint more liberal SC judges and protect womens rights?
Auntie Bush
Aug 2013
#178
You're right, she'll never get votes from the ReThugs and traditional independents...
Scuba
Aug 2013
#184
Nominating candidates is virtually impossible for anyone who is not filthy rich, and
Zorra
Aug 2013
#74
Running for Senator in the GE in a liberal state, and trying to get nominated for POTUS,
Zorra
Aug 2013
#87
Electing a candidate many won't vote for is a good trick no matter how bad the
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#89
I'm more worried about Iran than Iraq at this point, though Clinton's horrid and cynical judgment
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#70
Political Parties always go though a process of selecting candidates, to oppose a
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#91
Nah ...there's plenty of dinos who want to see the Dem party keep moving to the right. n/t
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#100
And the corporate media found a way to overmodulate his mike to make him "crazy"...
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#146
Sorry...he had lost Iowa and was losing New Hampshire before that happened.
brooklynite
Aug 2013
#169
As this CBS article notes, the coverage of his speech didn't do him any favors...
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#183
Why vote for any Dem that wil move the party center right ...right ...and more right?
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#99
Speaking up to preempt the "Hillary is inevitable" meme is NOT the same thing as "hating" her
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#136
Hillary is the favorite for 2016 because that's what polls show. The media reporting that fact does
Metric System
Aug 2013
#170
I'll only vote for a nonmilitant. We don't need an NSA, we just need to stop the drone strikes.
Gregorian
Aug 2013
#117
With current state of the Republican Party I think that any credible Democratic candidate would win.
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#123
With the current state of the Republican Party, are you willing to take the chance?
brooklynite
Aug 2013
#137
Hillary had those same "advantages" over Obama in 2008. Warren in my book has academic advantage
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#145
Her introducing legislation that reflects her knowledge and experience can be "bumper stickered"
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#165
I will never forgive Daschle or Gebhardt or any of the other realpolitikers who voted for this
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#220
well Cliffordu hundreds of politicians, thousands of staffers and large masses of ernest but
grantcart
Aug 2013
#155
I am opposed to the US participating in any optional war and I've said so since Vietnam...but...
Sancho
Aug 2013
#154
And if comes down to Hillary or Christie, will you sit it out and let him get elected by default
DainBramaged
Aug 2013
#158
True, but there are those with an agenda who think that the truth is greatly overrated.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#173
That's one less vote for Hillary, and plus one for the Republican candidate.
Billy Pilgrim
Aug 2013
#239
Hopefully having the balls to be willing to slaughter several hundred thousand people without
indepat
Aug 2013
#192
And who voted with W more than a lot of Republicans. Great question, Manny!
marble falls
Aug 2013
#194
Why on earth should we nominate a presidential candidate who would break many of his promises....
YoungDemCA
Aug 2013
#201
Manny, your OPs tend to be very contentious but I must say you have a way of
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#202
I think most of us can agree that cutting Social Security is not a traditional Democratic value
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
#294
It means they made a HUGE mistake. We don't need more. Like war sith Syria, Iran, Korea, Texas
grahamhgreen
Aug 2013
#226
Because it's evident her work as SOS shined a new light for her to see the folly of that vote. n/t
dsharp88
Aug 2013
#232
Look Manny I am sorry to you and anyone else in this Op and Thread that I may have been unfriendly
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#278
Warren/Sanders or Sanders/Warren are just two of the possible options for me...just sayin'. May be
silvershadow
Aug 2013
#283
Not sure how that would/could work...maybe he would consider registering? Anyhow, that would
silvershadow
Aug 2013
#285
I am a Hillary fan but I love them as well and would vote for them if they were the nominee.
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#286
If she's announces she's running, it will be her. Period. The others would have to wait. Not sure
silvershadow
Aug 2013
#287