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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
60. He did try telling the little turd from Crawford.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:34 PM
Aug 2013


New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims

“I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released," an expert tells Salon

By Jordan Michael Smith
Salon.com
Tuesday, Jun 19, 2012 04:24 PM EDT

Over 120 CIA documents concerning 9/11, Osama bin Laden and counterterrorism were published today for the first time, having been newly declassified and released to the National Security Archive. The documents were released after the NSA pored through the footnotes of the 9/11 Commission and sent Freedom of Information Act requests.

The material contains much new information about the hunt before and after 9/11 for bin Laden, the development of the drone campaign in AfPak, and al-Qaida’s relationship with America’s ally, Pakistan. Perhaps most damning are the documents showing that the CIA had bin Laden in its cross hairs a full year before 9/11 — but didn’t get the funding from the Bush administration White House to take him out or even continue monitoring him. The CIA materials directly contradict the many claims of Bush officials that it was aggressively pursuing al-Qaida prior to 9/11, and that nobody could have predicted the attacks. “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials.

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Former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice has taken credit for the drone program that the Bush administration ignored. “Things like working to get an armed Predator that actually turned out to be extraordinarily important, working to get a strategy that would allow us to get better cooperation from Pakistan and from the Central Asians,” she said in 2006. “We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al-Qaida.” Rice claimed that the Bush administration continued the Clinton administration’s counterterrorism policies, a claim the documents disprove. “If the administration wanted to get it done, I’m sure they could have gotten it done,” says Elias-Sanborn.

Many of the documents publicize for the first time what was first made clear in the 9/11 Commission: The White House received a truly remarkable amount of warnings that al-Qaida was trying to attack the United States. From June to September 2001, a full seven CIA Senior Intelligence Briefs detailed that attacks were imminent, an incredible amount of information from one intelligence agency. One from June called “Bin-Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats” writes that “[redacted] expects Usama Bin Laden to launch multiple attacks over the coming days.” The famous August brief called “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike the US” is included. “Al-Qai’da members, including some US citizens, have resided in or travelled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure here,” it says. During the entire month of August, President Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Texas — which tied with one of Richard Nixon’s as the longest vacation ever taken by a president. CIA Director George Tenet has said he didn’t speak to Bush once that month, describing the president as being “on leave.” Bush did not hold a Principals’ meeting on terrorism until September 4, 2001, having downgraded the meetings to a deputies’ meeting, which then-counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke has repeatedly said slowed down anti-Bin Laden efforts “enormously, by months.”

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http://www.salon.com/2012/06/19/new_nsa_docs_reveal_911_truths/

"All right. You've covered your ass now."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1528134

Still, the guy's a stinker, saying that about 20-somethings.

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Obviously not listening to anyone who remembers Ellsberg Warpy Aug 2013 #1
Michael Hayden warrant46 Aug 2013 #47
Lots of money in 'funding' at stake of old Hayden and Chertoff and Booz Allen et al. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #53
I'm 65 and they haven't talked with me either kpete! nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #2
Judging by this snippet alone, Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #3
not necessarily the level of intellect. It's the level of arrogance and greed for power that usually liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #6
I stand corrected! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #58
Arrogance is by definition Stupid Demeter Aug 2013 #68
Spoke To The Opposite Sex Several Times Today - Obviously Not Listening To Me cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4
The "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years" reference NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #70
Check out a picture of Michael Hayden, Stud! JackRiddler Aug 2013 #5
The only contact with the opposite sex this guy has Generic Other Aug 2013 #7
don't hate him because he is beautiful olddots Aug 2013 #15
Never mind nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #18
Even though it's in the vein... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #23
It's Cecil the Turtle from Warner Brothers cartoons. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #28
Which is why it's VITAL that the NSA work with the DEA to prosecute medical marijuana patients! Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #8
Because they all LIED to us AppleBottom Aug 2013 #21
+1000000 Lying liars. woo me with science Aug 2013 #31
Maybe he has a serious bug up his ass from Cheney telling him to stand down on 9/11. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #9
THIS is the kind of thinking we had from the person who was running these agencies. JimDandy Aug 2013 #10
He's afraid of losing control of the authoritarian government he helped to establish. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #22
Guy sounds terribly intimidated by the possibility of dissent. n/t DirkGently Aug 2013 #11
Hayden is an idiot, glad he is gone. Rex Aug 2013 #12
Hey! And you are young compared to me. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #14
Hilarious! SoapBox Aug 2013 #16
So I am just twenty something? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #17
Wow... Belligerence from such low human beings in high places. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #19
Something tells me that the chances of seeing a UFO is more likely AppleBottom Aug 2013 #20
Who is he, this guy? n2doc Aug 2013 #24
LOL! Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #33
Actually, Mike CanonRay Aug 2013 #25
Is that some sort of childish attempt to insult this group of twentysomethings by Zorra Aug 2013 #26
I think he means they are big losers who can't "score" (Like Snowden... oh, wait.) deurbano Aug 2013 #35
His heterosexism is startling but not surprising Newsjock Aug 2013 #27
Oh look the guy who didn't think the 4th amendment mentioned 'probable cause' is back... PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #29
Sounds like an impotent sixty-something rant wtmusic Aug 2013 #30
These DC types can't get through any speech without homophobic bullshit worthy Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #32
Go ahead and say it, Mike: "You idealistic, stupid faggots, you!" hatrack Aug 2013 #34
So this is an example of those (at the highest levels) who are keeping our country "safe." deurbano Aug 2013 #36
Gee, Daniel Ellsberg doesn't look 20 something. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #37
Who's the enemy again? Oilwellian Aug 2013 #38
He knows this because if they HAD talked to the opposite sex, the NSA would have recorded it. n/t hughee99 Aug 2013 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author markiv Aug 2013 #40
Is he implying they are gay? Helen Borg Aug 2013 #41
no--fratboys are typically athletic, at least MisterP Aug 2013 #42
No. I think he's calling them geeks who are too shy / nerdy to flirt. ecstatic Aug 2013 #46
Former NSA chief: Snowden defenders are ‘twentysomethings who haven’t talked to the opposite sex’ The CCC Aug 2013 #43
How quaint: He's using the 1980 playbook on how to disparage your enemies. reformist2 Aug 2013 #44
35 and married. I defend Snowden. . .nice try, dirtbag! Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #45
47 and married here VWolf Aug 2013 #48
I was just about to say Kpete Howler Aug 2013 #49
Let me explain this is terms a keen mind like yours would understand. BillyRibs Aug 2013 #50
I'm 69, just spoke to my wife, and we agree that Snowden is a hero and Hayden is an ass. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #51
From the man who let 9/11 happen... Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #52
He did try telling the little turd from Crawford. Octafish Aug 2013 #60
Apparently Mr. Hayden hasn't heard about Snowden's pole-dancing lover? eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #54
And Hayden has relations with farm animals LittleBlue Aug 2013 #55
HURR! SNOWDEN DEFENDERS ARE NERDS!!! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #56
Actually, his comments paint Snowden and hackers as terrorists. morningfog Aug 2013 #61
That too. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #62
"If and when our government grabs Edward Snowden, Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #57
How would he know? Downtown Hound Aug 2013 #59
What???? I don't get it. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #63
And if they were? Fearless Aug 2013 #64
Nothing like making up a bullshit headline shawn703 Aug 2013 #65
STOOPID blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #66
Cuz he sure sounds like one. Insults and everything. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #67
It's way of putting someone down BanzaiBonnie Aug 2013 #69
Sorry, Mr. Hayden.... GTurck Aug 2013 #71
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