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JackRiddler

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76. I don't believe they really believe that.

Reply to Proud Public Servant (Reply #73)

Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:24 PM

Aug 2013

The best chance for Clinton at this point is to create an impression that only she can win the general. If that impression goes away, so does most of her appeal to the majority of Democratic primary voters. So this stuff you're seeing about her strength (and her inevitability) is partisan talking points, not credible.

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"Vote for Hillary or else!" [View all] JackRiddler Aug 2013 OP

Kick Scuba Aug 2013 #1

Nobody has said "Vote for Hillary or else..." brooklynite Aug 2013 #2

A lot of folks here have said SheilaT Aug 2013 #35

Many have, and more will. That's the game... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #112

Ummmmmm,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #3

Ah anarchy! The favorite scare word of the rulers ........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #11

"communist" got kinda overworked a couple of generations ago. RC Aug 2013 #19

Back when,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #96

Seeing how Snowden is not a traitor, but did his duty according to the oath he took to uphold the RC Aug 2013 #97

Funnny,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #98

So you agree we should have no privacy from government snooping? RC Aug 2013 #99

Yet,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #103

So, no amount of proof will convince you? RC Aug 2013 #107

Please note that "hard-line communists" are banned per the terms of service MNBrewer Aug 2013 #59

Frankly I think if Hillery runs zeemike Aug 2013 #4

It must be nice to blame "The Party" or "TPTB" for every candidate you don't like brooklynite Aug 2013 #6

They did it with a trojan horse. zeemike Aug 2013 #13

You voted for Obama because you thought he had Progressive dog Aug 2013 #34

Yes that is about it. zeemike Aug 2013 #44

Boy aren't you a sucker sharp_stick Aug 2013 #47

Well I can admit to being a sucker. zeemike Aug 2013 #49

but there was not really a choice either time hfojvt Aug 2013 #56

jeered or ignored about sums it up zeemike Aug 2013 #58

"I believed all the shit you folks told us". Progressive dog Aug 2013 #93

Well I guess the difference between us is zeemike Aug 2013 #95

" I can recognize when I have been suckered in" Progressive dog Aug 2013 #109

Rehabilitating the Bush name HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #60

Well I don't watch TV but that does not surprise me. zeemike Aug 2013 #64

I don't watch much TV myself anymore HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #110

Actually two "vote sinks" for us on the left. Edwards was also in this category too... cascadiance Aug 2013 #87

You are probably right zeemike Aug 2013 #88

I guarantee they will hfojvt Aug 2013 #54

You are right it is a win win for them zeemike Aug 2013 #55

They will blame the left instead of blaming themselves for foisting Clinton on the party. L0oniX Aug 2013 #102

That's how I see it too. zeemike Aug 2013 #108

I guess if Hillary runs its going to get very ugly around here again Gman Aug 2013 #5

ugh... I was so relieved when that mostly subsided eShirl Aug 2013 #15

People are sick and tired of putting faith in NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #23

Nailed it. Perfectly. woo me with science Aug 2013 #46

DLC = Dino Leadership Council. Pretenders to liberal progressives. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #104

I am sick and tired of the Saint Hillary rhetoric. Ford_Prefect Aug 2013 #7

BUT NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #25

Her lead in name recognition over other announced primary contenders is gianormous HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #8

As was already the case in 2008. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #9

Yep HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #14

We have to vote for the name we reconize, reguardless of the realities we know will then happen RC Aug 2013 #22

Uhh.... Clinton's lead over Warren is ANYTHING BUT "gianormous" in latest poll... cascadiance Aug 2013 #86

I'm sure your serious, but this post doesn't Warren that. HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #89

As of today EuroGame Aug 2013 #10

She's inevitable! She's the only chance! (Exhibit A) JackRiddler Aug 2013 #12

Nah Cryptoad Aug 2013 #50

Exactly. The other hilarity is... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #61

"8 years of Clinton will pretty much be a continuation of Obama. " eShirl Aug 2013 #17

"5 years of Obama have pretty much been a continuation of _____." JackRiddler Aug 2013 #20

Voltaire also said 'Don't let the good be used as a cudgle to beat the Perfect into Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #36

I see a pattern on DU. Push Push Hillary. Poll she fails. Whine. Push Push Poll Fail Whine on point Aug 2013 #16

Well said! Myrina Aug 2013 #27

So, you'd prefer a "Real" Third Way, DLC Dem? brooklynite Aug 2013 #39

It's juvenile to say that a winning politician can be a fake? FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #63

No, it's juvenile to suggest that a politicians who won... brooklynite Aug 2013 #65

Given the number on this site who continue to support America's betrayers FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #66

Congrats...you probably just insulted half the people here. brooklynite Aug 2013 #67

I care about my country and it's Bill of Rights FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #68

pattern includes calling people "haters/bashers" who are against DLC/Third Way Dems antigop Aug 2013 #42

The Dem party has and is morphing into what the right was. Clinton will help that to continue. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #105

Sorry to say, but Madmiddle Aug 2013 #18

Can you do me a Cheviteau Aug 2013 #52

Of course that isn't the third way MO dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #69

Bill Clinton SIGNED it. bvar22 Aug 2013 #75

Speeches and utterances don't count for much. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #83

Oh Jesus Christ in a trashcan, with your thread. demwing Aug 2013 #21

GOP war on women makes Hillary inevitable coldmountain Aug 2013 #24

Sorry, gotta call BS on that one. BrainDrain Aug 2013 #30

It's like there's an alternate world on DU Lisa D Aug 2013 #29

Thanks for the kick before you hid it. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #31

Draft Jeff Merkley. That is all. Bette Noir Aug 2013 #26

Hillary should take a walk...... BrainDrain Aug 2013 #28

The problem with "her turn" is that it's our lives... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #32

Another anti-Hillary OP with no alternatives JoePhilly Aug 2013 #33

The idea I believe, BrainDrain Aug 2013 #38

Not until an alternative appears JoePhilly Aug 2013 #41

At this point in time, LWolf Aug 2013 #53

Promoting Hillary like there is no alternative is also becoming a theme around here. L0oniX Aug 2013 #106

If it's anything like 2007-08, count me out. tridim Aug 2013 #37

Had There Been More Pro-Hiilary 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #40

er,and you know this HOW? DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #78

Come on people... EuroGame Aug 2013 #43

Can't pull the lever for Hillary mick063 Aug 2013 #45

The place for a fight is the primary Proud Public Servant Aug 2013 #48

assimilate or be destroyed hfojvt Aug 2013 #51

Hillary would not win a general election. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #57

That's not realism. That's nonsense Proud Public Servant Aug 2013 #62

Same calculations will apply to other Democrats... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #71

I agree and Proud Public Servant Aug 2013 #73

I don't believe they really believe that. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #76

An article on her popularity (its from May 2013)... Agschmid Aug 2013 #74

She is very a polarizing libodem Aug 2013 #82

Excellent OP dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #70

There is much "left" that would be popular. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #72

Vote for whomever you want in the primary. In the general, vote for the nominee or else. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #77

This OP is a perfect example of one of the reasons I love DU. Bravo. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #79

Ooooh, thank you so much! JackRiddler Aug 2013 #85

no way in hell Howler Aug 2013 #80

I will NOT vote for Clinton... 99Forever Aug 2013 #81

We need to start looking for other candidates NOW. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #84

Well, Clinton's supporters (not "The Party Bosses") are already getting organized... brooklynite Aug 2013 #94

Egads man, the election is a long way off. . B Calm Aug 2013 #90

Her DU campaign has already started JackRiddler Aug 2013 #92

Is she running? nt justiceischeap Aug 2013 #91

Anyone who votes for Clinton is voting for the status quo. Eddie Haskell Aug 2013 #100

This will piss off the other worshippers. L0oniX Aug 2013 #101

Okay. Else it is. AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #111

Well, I was questioned very suspiciously right here on DU re Hillary and what my political intention sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #113