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MisterP

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14. the neocons since 1975/8 declared that we'd gone soft and were letting Moscow take over everything

Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:19 PM

Aug 2013

they lied constantly to overcome Vietnam's blatant failure, undermined the Constitution, and backed a violent, ultraconservative Sunni Islamism against Moscow: no stoop was too low to defeat The Great Enemy (this was incubated as Carter turned to the right 1979-80 as Iran and Nicaragua didn't go 100% the way the new Best and Brightest thought it should)
we whiffle around 1994-99, poking at Haiti and Bosnia and then more intensely in Kosovo and Iraq (the blood we shed in inverse proportion to how much good we end up doing)
then 9-11 Changed Everything by letting the neocons pass the laws they'd pre-prepared (again while a Dem Prez drifted to the right) and launch the war they'd pre-planned since the Gulf War
we bombed Libya for Qatar and and now are openly arming what appear to be cannibal hordes a few countries over
and then you got Ergenekon running around ever since they shot the Pope...

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A war. A Father and a son. Some guy in the grocery store [View all] 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 OP

My father served in the USAF 23 years and never, ever wore anything off duty that indicated any kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #1

discretion is the better part of valour. nt Snotcicles Aug 2013 #37

It certainly has.. SoCalDem Aug 2013 #2

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you have a nice day too SoCalDem Aug 2013 #6

I feel much better, thank you. nt hack89 Aug 2013 #8

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my dad onethatcares Aug 2013 #3

I've seen lots of old guys in hats that say "Korean War Veteran' or "Vietnam Veteran" etc... mwrguy Aug 2013 #4

Watch your mouth!!! OldRedneck Aug 2013 #22

this, from tags on their vehicles to the hats, the old guys just wear different shows loli phabay Aug 2013 #32

Recommend, and thanks for babylonsister Aug 2013 #7

My uncle, one of my dad's brothers, liberalhistorian Aug 2013 #9

Chicken Hawks RadioFreekentucky Aug 2013 #10

Agree. It bugs me too. trof Aug 2013 #11

My father was in WW1 zeemike Aug 2013 #13

Well, the drawdown is underway. A lot of those MADem Aug 2013 #27

Actually I have found a lot of his records. zeemike Aug 2013 #28

You should be able to find out, from his record, how he got the purple heart if you don't already MADem Aug 2013 #30

Yes I found out a lot about what he did in the war. zeemike Aug 2013 #31

That's great that you have all that! I agree about research, MADem Aug 2013 #33

The battle of Bellue Woods, I believe that was the battle that earned the Omnith Aug 2013 #43

the neocons since 1975/8 declared that we'd gone soft and were letting Moscow take over everything MisterP Aug 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Ilsa Aug 2013 #15

My Father Served BillyRibs Aug 2013 #16

My father was supposedly in Thailand during the Vietnam war. nolabear Aug 2013 #17

Thanks for sharing usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #18

Really a brilliant OP. My dad was a marine sufrommich Aug 2013 #19

Things changed under Reagan...what was real became fake and vice versa. Moostache Aug 2013 #20

Forget the 1970s nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #26

My brother was in Afghanistan and Iraq... antigone382 Aug 2013 #21

Real Pride and Love for ones Country randr Aug 2013 #23

You would be surprised as to how many chickenhawks are strutting around in costume. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #24

My father was with the resistance in Poland nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #25

They really never talk about it. My Uncle finally told his children I insisted. gordianot Aug 2013 #29

My father in WWII, in the South Pacific, he would never ever talk Raine Aug 2013 #34

My Daddy served in WWII. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 #35

Great idea... Sotf Aug 2013 #36

Thank you for your service bluedeathray Aug 2013 #38

My stepfather spent 18 months in Korea. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #39

2 tours in Nam, tumtum Aug 2013 #40

My uncle was in Merrill's Marauders and ellie Aug 2013 #41

I agree completely Omnith Aug 2013 #42