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In reply to the discussion: Dear Whiny White People: Great rant from a Native American Facebook friend [View all]people always have defined me in what I might find as an offensive manner. An offensive manner. Does the nword fit that offensiveness? Been used since before 'cracker'. When the klan was shooting up my grandfathers house and wounding my grandmother, according to my grandfather, "those cowards got to running when he started shooting back at the crackers", his quote. Spanish-American war vet, Kettle Hill not teddy's san juan cake walk. Would you like for me to go into what those cowards were shouting to my grandfather? Shouting why? shooting why? because "that nigger had too much land.". Direct quote among many. Please spare me any outrage at the word cracker. People been throwing hand grenades at me every since I've been black and yeah, you're right, I have been returning fire. Any questions?
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Dear Whiny White People: Great rant from a Native American Facebook friend [View all]
HarveyDarkey
Aug 2013
OP
I find that outrageously dumb and unproductive in moving along race relations in this country
Kurska
Aug 2013
#1
Clueless. Females only got the vote in 1920. 18 year olds only in 1971.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#112
my recollection was, in the early days of this country there were property requirements
steve2470
Aug 2013
#232
But again, they were not disenfranchised for being white, nor for being male.
quakerboy
Aug 2013
#240
Of all the issues we face today you reanimate a zombie thread from 2013. 3 and a 1/2 years ago.
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2017
#410
Yeah my experience as a gay person is much less valuable than that of people of color
Kurska
Aug 2013
#104
Apology accepted. I also communicated in way that were, in retrospect, less than respectful
Kurska
Aug 2013
#179
I am pretty certain that everybody around her is upset at what's going on as far as voting rights
el_bryanto
Aug 2013
#119
Hey thats a start, here is another quote, it may surprise you as to said it.
Rebellious Republican
Aug 2013
#199
Precisely. Minorities are always just sopped to let it go, move on and get over it.
brewens
Aug 2013
#303
What "sides" are there? Besides the racist side and the (ostensibly) non-racist side?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#159
do white people outside of the aryan brotherhood really think they are all the same
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#5
Shhh, white people are all the same and no white person has ever been treated unfairly by society
Kurska
Aug 2013
#7
Not true. The Republicans are trying to suppress the voting rights of poor people of all
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#183
European Jews weren't considered to be white in the early part of the 20th century
BuelahWitch
Aug 2013
#135
Was that sign universal? I don't consider any Irish or Irish descentants to be victims.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#155
Irish people weren't considered "white" at the time. Neither were Italians, Jews, Greeks, etc.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#172
you know something i forgot that discussing stuff with people with bigoted views
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#68
I'm sure the Aaryan Brotherhood would argue that all white people are not equal
BuelahWitch
Aug 2013
#136
Even Native Americans do not think of themselves as a monolith, or in need of a spokesman.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#150
It must be comforting to live in a bubble completely devoid of historic knowledge
Bunnahabhain
Aug 2013
#62
so its a sins of the father thing. you know i bet nobody on du had anything to do with slavery
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#78
Remember, too, the Disarming Act which some families do but apparently not by history teachers.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#210
Agreed. But some people seem to willfully conflate discrimination-for-other-reasons against people
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#192
It won't be possible to forgive and forget in this country until the unfairness no longer exists.
sybylla
Aug 2013
#96
"I will do my part while I live on this earth to make sure that I never further those."
brush
Aug 2013
#46
LOL... So one here is allowed (or not) to take part in certain behaviors based...
yawnmaster
Aug 2013
#27
The OP is about how White People should be fine being called Crackers, right?
el_bryanto
Aug 2013
#61
you know that everyone is in that boat, not every white person comes from one national line
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#63
and your was? you alluded to those immigrants that arrived later in the 20th century
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#216
I'm a white dude and my "people" were kidnapped and sold into slavery by people of color
AngryAmish
Aug 2013
#70
Sure, if you still suffer under society-side systematic race-based discrimination
Orrex
Aug 2013
#88
No, it would not be too hard for people to just not refer to anyone by racial pejoratives, unless...
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#120
So because someone was mistreated, I should like having epithets applied to me?
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2013
#107
when you can prove that I did one of those things I will STFU. Until then YOU can STFU!
GalaxyHunter
Aug 2013
#126
Dear Fellow Native American Short Sighted Guy: There are chains worse than iron links...
LaydeeBug
Aug 2013
#152
I take offense at ALL racial pejoratives, and at anyone's attempt to marginalize ANY racial
LaydeeBug
Aug 2013
#170
I'm not trying to "marginalize" anyone - except perhaps racist white conservatives - nor do I have
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#176
I did not say or imply that you were in that group. Considering you're on DU, I'd wager you aren't.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#203
You would be correct in THAT assumption for sure. Best to describe people who think
LaydeeBug
Aug 2013
#204
Okay, I see your point. And yes, there are instances where I would strategically avoid the "r-word"
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#205
But discrimination against women has been part of American society from the beginning.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#352
I have native ancestors that traveled the Trail of Tears as well as black ancestors
sunwyn
Aug 2013
#180
You must have some very deep scars to be filled with so much hate.
Rebellious Republican
Aug 2013
#194
The OP since started another thread and has yet to post in this one.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#253
The OP posted when they are afraid or unable to return to engage in discussion.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#208
But what's so terrible about the OP? What was posted that isn't factual?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#209
I was mostly with you until I got to the phrase "predictable self-flagellators."
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#236
I really don't think the guy's advocating pointlessly insulting people.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#354
Finally, someone willing to admit that someone else can tell you you CAN'T be offended by something!
hughee99
Aug 2013
#227
I can see by the posts in this thread this is quite the grown up conversation.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#244
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10023422027&info=1#recs
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#251
The fact that his grievances are true and accurate doesn't make this approach less counterproductive
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2013
#283
I know, right? it's like when Feminists are shrill- why can't they make their complaints sweetly?
bettyellen
Aug 2013
#288
Oh, but because we were never slaves (at least not technically), we should just shut it.
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2013
#308
I know it can be hard to be empathetic, but people get sick and tired of hearing
bettyellen
Aug 2013
#359
except- when you have already tried saying it nicely and people blow you off,
bettyellen
Aug 2013
#377
When someone ELSE gets to tell me what should and should not offend me...
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2013
#287
It's clear he knows the difference. But after 24 hours with your disruptive thread you have nothing
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#332
People with honest motives only provoke discussions if they are ready to participate.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#346
Then post divisive threads when you are actually available to discuss them.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#356
Excellent anecdotes and examples. Thanks for the updates. True about the unequal responses. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#338
Ok. But why is it important that white people suppress a natural reaction to an insult?
RZM
Aug 2013
#301
+1. That's why the OP's post is divisive and disruptive. But he or she can't see that. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#363
Are you really going to try to conflate the Trayvon Martin case with slavery and the civil rights...
Taitertots
Aug 2013
#403