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Warren DeMontague

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68. I know. What's astounding is that anyone here is even trying to polish this turd.

Thu Aug 8, 2013, 05:27 AM

Aug 2013

Our prisons are full of non-violent drug offenders. Every 5 minutes someone is arrested for possession - personal use - of pot.

Even leaving aside the moral implications of the fact that we give rapists and murderers early release so we can make room for people like Richard Paey, How many of those prosecutions were constructed on this sort of dubious legal foundation? How many people had cases built upon outright lies not just to the Defense, but to the Prosecution and The Judge?

Seems to me a massive wholesale miscarriage of justice, if we are to even retain the semblance of rule of law in the courts.

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You Are, In Fact, Being Watched [View all] WilliamPitt Aug 2013 OP

We are privatizing freedom. Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #1

Who knows what "crime" will come to mean? phantom power Aug 2013 #2

Minority report. Javaman Aug 2013 #75

But, but, there's absolutely no evidence of any spying on Americans. Read that right here on DU. Scuba Aug 2013 #3

So did I. It is the meme of the day. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #29

Excellent article. Good enough to elevate you to traitor journalist status among Zorra Aug 2013 #4

Ceiling cat? Socal31 Aug 2013 #5

Look up. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #7

Smelly cat HappyMe Aug 2013 #11

But Obama said the NSA isn't spying on Americans leftstreet Aug 2013 #6

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #8

I understand that some have held back...not wanting to get scammed...or KoKo Aug 2013 #9

of course. and anybody that thinks the security apparatus feels bound by laws, warrants, and KG Aug 2013 #10

The Reuters report did not address the question of whether or not data came from foreign sources. randome Aug 2013 #12

No matter how many links to articles your fellow DU'ers give you.... KoKo Aug 2013 #13

To be fair, WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #14

Because I think that was an important question to ask? randome Aug 2013 #16

Rhetorical Point...Counter Point.. It's what you do.... KoKo Aug 2013 #21

+1 WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #15

Maybe your credentials would give you enough weight to ask for a follow-up? randome Aug 2013 #18

My friend Ron Wyden has some very strong credentials and he gets lied to in Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #74

Reuters appears to be pulling its information from ProSense Aug 2013 #28

Would that be data laundering? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #36

Thank you Mr Pitt. 99Forever Aug 2013 #17

k to the r frylock Aug 2013 #19

Great post. K & R eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #20

K&R Solly Mack Aug 2013 #22

K&R...! KoKo Aug 2013 #23

but.... cvoogt Aug 2013 #24

U.S. Spy Program Lifts Veil in Court ProSense Aug 2013 #25

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #26

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Exactly. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #33

Your post was hidden...but I think it might have been worth it. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #53

It should have been. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #83

Fucking THANK YOU - for SAYING IT!! Great OP, Will. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #72

Figures you would condone such a post. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #82

Don't think it will, WRP. Duval Aug 2013 #96

+1 LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #32

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #35

Oh FFS... SidDithers Aug 2013 #37

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #39

Oh FFS... SidDithers Aug 2013 #42

You know, you don't need to sign your posts. Bonobo Aug 2013 #60

That's why there's the NSA. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #64

Important to point out this change very likely due to Snowden's whistleblowing. flpoljunkie Aug 2013 #84

Thanks for the aritlce, ProSense.. my someone's awfully touchy about Cha Aug 2013 #95

Big k&r. dkf Aug 2013 #27

Thank you, William Pitt. Faryn Balyncd Aug 2013 #31

KICK Zorra Aug 2013 #34

K & R cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #38

Kick. Plus the usual memo-whisperers show up, needle Will, and get their desired results. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #40

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Uh... drugs are illegal (fortunately, for many, unfortunately for some) Amonester Aug 2013 #43

Fraud is illegal too, yet the President chose not to prosecute the banksters. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #54

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It's a-ok to persecute the little people, but the 1% can break laws at will. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #58

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Actually the executive could end the stupid war on drugs tomorrow. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #71

Given how the War on Drugs turned out; time for a War on Jobs! Divernan Aug 2013 #73

Wish there were a DU Irony Award - Well played indeed! - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #76

How much can you trust the future? Amonester Aug 2013 #44

It is, in fact, all about you. gulliver Aug 2013 #45

Good article Will Hydra Aug 2013 #46

Thank you Will. You laid it all out. Autumn Aug 2013 #47

Great piece, Will Oilwellian Aug 2013 #48

Well then we have a duty Newest Reality Aug 2013 #49

9/11 was nothing more than an excuse to initiate their preconceived agenda. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #50

TransCanada were caught with a slideshow of peaceful activists, teaching cops they're terrorists. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #51

How long until Minority Report, USA?...nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #52

Kick And Recommended cantbeserious Aug 2013 #57

Good one, Will. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #59

Obama: NSA Surveillance Was Necessary To Make Sure Boston Bombings Weren't Part Of Bigger Plot Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #61

Necessary for them to help the DEA monitor and arrest medical marijuana users? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #63

Spying vs Surveillance are synonyms Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #65

I know. What's astounding is that anyone here is even trying to polish this turd. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #68

Right, we need the NSA because we're too stupid to simply follow up a direct Russian tip off. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #66

Yes, but my point is his use of the words Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #67

I agree with you Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #69

I just wanted to show he was splitting hairs Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #70

K&R laundry_queen Aug 2013 #62

Great post Will. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #77

Spying comprehensively? There's no proof of that. nt treestar Aug 2013 #78

fuck you bigtree Aug 2013 #79

The spying paranoia on DU has jumped the shark DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #80

No, they have all that data, and a lot more. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #87

Facebook knows me as a John Q. Public. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #92

Thank you, Don'tTreadOnMe. that is all. Cha Aug 2013 #94

You put it into words and you still don't see the difference? A Simple Game Aug 2013 #99

K&R. nt OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #81

K&R JDPriestly Aug 2013 #85

Excellent OP! blackspade Aug 2013 #86

K & R Lifelong Protester Aug 2013 #88

Thanks Will. K&R glinda Aug 2013 #89

The DEA connection is very troubling, and it's not just the government, ecstatic Aug 2013 #90

Power corrupts... FlyByNight Aug 2013 #91

Spending its resources to spy on the American people thwarts those would express dissent over indepat Aug 2013 #93

you ask Vietnameravet Aug 2013 #97

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