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In reply to the discussion: Thanks, Stand Your Ground! No homicide charges for teen who shot, killed man [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)48. I dream of an American where once again sticking wielding maniacs can safely assault teens.
They left out this tidbit --
The shooter will face charges in the case specifically, carrying a concealed firearm and possession of a firearm by a minor.
Ocala police detectives on Tuesday were in the process of obtaining a pickup order for Pierson, who is being charged as an adult.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20130806/ARTICLES/130809792?p=2&tc=pg
Ocala police detectives on Tuesday were in the process of obtaining a pickup order for Pierson, who is being charged as an adult.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20130806/ARTICLES/130809792?p=2&tc=pg
It seems TP (how apt) tries suggesting that those who are entitled to a SYG defense are also exempt from other laws. This is obviously false and misleading.
They also leave out this inconvenient fact --
One witness saw Jacobs get out of his Ford Expedition with the stick in his hand and yell an expletive as he walked around the front of the SUV toward the trio. The witness said Jacobs raised the stick to strike one of the youths, and one of them shot him.
Another eyewitness said Jacobs had been arguing with the three down the street. She said the teens had been "talking junk" to him.
Shortly afterward, the trio was walking west on Third Street when Jacobs drove up to them. The witness said he got out with a large stick and said, "I'll beat your ass," as he approached with the stick raised. One of the teens then shot Jacobs.
Another eyewitness said Jacobs had been arguing with the three down the street. She said the teens had been "talking junk" to him.
Shortly afterward, the trio was walking west on Third Street when Jacobs drove up to them. The witness said he got out with a large stick and said, "I'll beat your ass," as he approached with the stick raised. One of the teens then shot Jacobs.
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Thanks, Stand Your Ground! No homicide charges for teen who shot, killed man [View all]
Robb
Aug 2013
OP
waved a stick at the teens. one ran away. the other could have, but didn't. waving a stick
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#13
swinging and waving are the same action. the other teen was able to run away from the big
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#103
in principle i see a value of 'reasonable force' - that's not what i'm seeing
samsingh
Aug 2013
#149
SYG lowers the threshold for using deadly violence. It is a fucking bad law.
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#101
syg = blacks can kills blacks & whites can kill blacks. but blacks killing whites? less likely.
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#11
What's to prevent the exact same scenario from occurring under duty to retreat?
Bazinga
Aug 2013
#158
And the post that rl6214 responded to didn't contain references in publications.
Bazinga
Aug 2013
#204
Um, the raw numbers tell a different story, you don't get to make up your own facts
snooper2
Aug 2013
#200
The blog comes from your link. It is where the 11-1 figure originally comes from
hack89
Aug 2013
#60
So you do have time to go back to your original thread and show me the hard numbers
hack89
Aug 2013
#86
Some guy said ill make him trayvon 2. Some kid said f$ck you and turned the system against itself
Township75
Aug 2013
#144
I dream of an American where once again sticking wielding maniacs can safely assault teens.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#48
The link says he's going to be charged for illegal possession. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2013
#120
Awful example. A "choir director" who attacked children with a large stick?
DirkGently
Aug 2013
#132
Here's how Justice Holmes analyized self-defense in 1921 in the Brown case:
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#154
At what kind of church was he a choir director? Was it an anti-gay church?
Freddie Stubbs
Aug 2013
#195