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alc

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16. that's the start
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:48 PM
Aug 2013

Every time you send an email to someone in the US they are going to collect it (but not analyze it). Because tomorrow you may send one to Argentina that gets flagged and then they want to look at everything else you've sent, both in and outside the US. And, since I'm now replying to you, they would then want to look at everything I've sent. And they've said they can go one step further and look at everything sent by everyone I've communicated with (3 steps in the US - you, me, my contacts)

If you've contacted a congressman, and they can make up a reason that your contact in Argentina "may be associated with" terrorism, then they can look into your congressman's contacts. When consider everything they want to consider "terrorism" it gets even uglier. A few years ago they tried to label "unauthorized access to a computer system" as terrorism. And wouldn't state that "following a google link to a page that someone didn't authorize you to see" would not be considered "unauthorized access". A court would certainly (I hope) throw it out, but their rules on who is/isn't a terrorist would justify them doing further analysis on you if your contact in Argentina had accessed a computer without authorization (i.e. if they set up a honeypot that "accidentally" got indexed by google and they followed google's link).


It may sound ridiculous and may never happen. But they have the technology and much of the process rules in place to perform pretty detailed analysis of politicians' lives.

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We do its called SOCIAL MEDIA... Historic NY Aug 2013 #1
I'm sure there's been a line on me long before the clicking became mainstream bigtree Aug 2013 #3
This comment is so sad because it demonstrates how successful the 'grooming' of citizens sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
Yep, they are screwed, did it to themselves too. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #2
They'll insist this still isn't proof LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #4
This article is about ProSense Aug 2013 #5
it's clear enough to me, ProSense, how this program is being described bigtree Aug 2013 #7
Congress is ProSense Aug 2013 #10
very good points; especially 'Congress' and their responsibility to lead bigtree Aug 2013 #12
"Big Tree"...this is an important Rant from you.... KoKo Aug 2013 #6
It's a surprising rant. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #8
Where is Bigtree, and what have you done with him? leftstreet Aug 2013 #9
Thanks for the post. Bookmarking. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #11
The Stazi didn't call it spying Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #13
So every time I send an e-mail or a FaceBook message to a friend in Argentina, Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #14
This is where the weasel parsing comes in Catherina Aug 2013 #15
rec read this ^^^ bigtree Aug 2013 #17
1 more thing. NSA can search your emails for talking *about* a target, not just talking *to* Catherina Aug 2013 #23
rules?! They don't need no steeekin' rules! bigtree Aug 2013 #26
Recommend. KoKo Aug 2013 #19
that's the start alc Aug 2013 #16
rec, continue reading alc's summary ^^^ bigtree Aug 2013 #18
Recommend. KoKo Aug 2013 #20
+1000. Thank you n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #24
They're going to store it and read it. Th1onein Aug 2013 #28
It was disappointing that he used the word "Spying".. KoKo Aug 2013 #21
Great post! nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #25
K&R nt Zorra Aug 2013 #27
today's presser bigtree Aug 2013 #29
He thought he said "pieing", as we do not hit people with pies...of course. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #30
NYT bigtree Aug 2013 #31
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