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99th_Monkey

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34. "The legislative process"

Thu Aug 8, 2013, 04:35 PM

Aug 2013

In the above video, Obama clearly refers to "government" in its most
generic and inclusive sense (i.e. NSA, CIA, FBI, DEA, etc.) ...
while also (as you point out) referencing congress & lobbyists.

Only cherry picking the "legislative process" part is just that: cherry
picking.

why deny it? there are many many people -- esp. in light of NSA
revelations -- who are clearly alarmed and concerned about the disparity
between promises and performance. Are you not aware of this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/wheres-the-transparency-that-obama-promised/2011/03/31/AFipwHCC_story.html

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BREAKING: Obama promises completely "open & transparent" government! [View all] 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2013 #1

Thanks for posting! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #2

Candidate says one thing, does another when President!!!!!! geek tragedy Aug 2013 #3

To this degree, 180* <-- is breathtaking & noteworthy imho ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #5

Should we call the Nobel committee again? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #6

Do as you wish, but when searching for the number, it will be under: Nobel Committee. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #10

Still the same " committee" darkangel218 Aug 2013 #12

Then you haven't paid close attention to Presidential history. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #7

"They all do it" <-- in defense of the indefensible eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #8

meh, the realities of governing are a lot different than those geek tragedy Aug 2013 #9

You mean those "realities" of governing that some have died trying to change 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #13

no, the reality that talk is cheap, and that not all promises will or can be realized nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #18

But, but .. what about my pony? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #25

Those who lie to get... onyourleft Aug 2013 #40

It's been said right here on DU that sometimes you need to lie in order to have the chance cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #50

Watch the video ... the "candidate" doesn't say what the OP claims. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #23

We are not spying on American people!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #4

I think you are just misunderstanding the rhetoric. When he said "we" he meant him and Bo. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #11

So POTUS has no say in it? lol!!!!!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #14

I am beginning to believe he has no say in it. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #20

I dont believe it. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #24

Without disparaging the President you should be able to see rhett o rick Aug 2013 #45

He already has pardoned them. nt darkangel218 Aug 2013 #47

No link? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #56

I'd vote for that guy. progressoid Aug 2013 #15

The OP you mean? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #16

Lucy has a football she wants you to kick. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #17

You sarcasm so noted. I did vote for that guy. I wouldnt vote for the guy we ended up with. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #46

I wanted to believe it, but knew I shouldn't. I was right. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #19

Holding an elected official accountable for campaign promises is unAmerican. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #21

The video you posted does not show what you claim. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #22

Context is everything, isn't it? greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #27

Not around here these days. nt JoePhilly Aug 2013 #29

Context Shmontext. NSA aside, 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #28

Which of those refers to transparency in the legislative process? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #30

"The legislative process" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #34

The ugly truth. You should make this an OP. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #36

True, he didn't say "completely" as the OP states. progressoid Aug 2013 #32

An honest OP would have referred to those and provided JoePhilly Aug 2013 #33

This took about two minutes.... progressoid Aug 2013 #35

Hummm ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #37

Missing the point again. progressoid Aug 2013 #41

You sure showed him. great white snark Aug 2013 #26

Nixon gave politics a rule, "Say whatever it takes to get elected first." Coyotl Aug 2013 #31

I don't know whether to laugh MissDeeds Aug 2013 #38

That's how I felt too, watching the video. it was painful. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #39

But...we are told he really didn't say that...we only heard it and interpreted it KoKo Aug 2013 #42

Yes, I do believe you're 100% correct 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #43

Indeed.. KoKo Aug 2013 #44

Candidate Obama debates President Obama on the police/surveillance state. woo me with science Aug 2013 #48

"No more National Security letters to spy on American Citizens WHO ARE NOT SUSPECTED OF A CRIME." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #53

Maybe he meant "transparent" as in "invisible". You know, like secret laws. /nt Marr Aug 2013 #49

CNN BREAKING: GOVERNMENT PROMISES TO DO BETTER! Rex Aug 2013 #51

Stay out of the darkness Mr. President. Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant. Very well said sir! Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #52

Mind you, they will need to take special, extraconstitutional measures to KEEP YOU SAFE FROM TERRRUR Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #54

Who CARES what PO says? He doesn't make those decisions. People like Sen. Feinstein do. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #55