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48. Candidate Obama debates President Obama on the police/surveillance state.

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Thu Aug 8, 2013, 08:15 PM

Aug 2013

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BREAKING: Obama promises completely "open & transparent" government! [View all] 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2013 #1

Thanks for posting! FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #2

Candidate says one thing, does another when President!!!!!! geek tragedy Aug 2013 #3

To this degree, 180* <-- is breathtaking & noteworthy imho ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #5

Should we call the Nobel committee again? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #6

Do as you wish, but when searching for the number, it will be under: Nobel Committee. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #10

Still the same " committee" darkangel218 Aug 2013 #12

Then you haven't paid close attention to Presidential history. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #7

"They all do it" <-- in defense of the indefensible eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #8

meh, the realities of governing are a lot different than those geek tragedy Aug 2013 #9

You mean those "realities" of governing that some have died trying to change 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #13

no, the reality that talk is cheap, and that not all promises will or can be realized nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #18

But, but .. what about my pony? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #25

Those who lie to get... onyourleft Aug 2013 #40

It's been said right here on DU that sometimes you need to lie in order to have the chance cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #50

Watch the video ... the "candidate" doesn't say what the OP claims. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #23

We are not spying on American people!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #4

I think you are just misunderstanding the rhetoric. When he said "we" he meant him and Bo. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #11

So POTUS has no say in it? lol!!!!!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #14

I am beginning to believe he has no say in it. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #20

I dont believe it. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #24

Without disparaging the President you should be able to see rhett o rick Aug 2013 #45

He already has pardoned them. nt darkangel218 Aug 2013 #47

No link? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #56

I'd vote for that guy. progressoid Aug 2013 #15

The OP you mean? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #16

Lucy has a football she wants you to kick. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #17

You sarcasm so noted. I did vote for that guy. I wouldnt vote for the guy we ended up with. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #46

I wanted to believe it, but knew I shouldn't. I was right. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #19

Holding an elected official accountable for campaign promises is unAmerican. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #21

The video you posted does not show what you claim. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #22

Context is everything, isn't it? greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #27

Not around here these days. nt JoePhilly Aug 2013 #29

Context Shmontext. NSA aside, 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #28

Which of those refers to transparency in the legislative process? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #30

"The legislative process" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #34

The ugly truth. You should make this an OP. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #36

True, he didn't say "completely" as the OP states. progressoid Aug 2013 #32

An honest OP would have referred to those and provided JoePhilly Aug 2013 #33

This took about two minutes.... progressoid Aug 2013 #35

Hummm ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #37

Missing the point again. progressoid Aug 2013 #41

You sure showed him. great white snark Aug 2013 #26

Nixon gave politics a rule, "Say whatever it takes to get elected first." Coyotl Aug 2013 #31

I don't know whether to laugh MissDeeds Aug 2013 #38

That's how I felt too, watching the video. it was painful. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #39

But...we are told he really didn't say that...we only heard it and interpreted it KoKo Aug 2013 #42

Yes, I do believe you're 100% correct 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #43

Indeed.. KoKo Aug 2013 #44

Candidate Obama debates President Obama on the police/surveillance state. woo me with science Aug 2013 #48

"No more National Security letters to spy on American Citizens WHO ARE NOT SUSPECTED OF A CRIME." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #53

Maybe he meant "transparent" as in "invisible". You know, like secret laws. /nt Marr Aug 2013 #49

CNN BREAKING: GOVERNMENT PROMISES TO DO BETTER! Rex Aug 2013 #51

Stay out of the darkness Mr. President. Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant. Very well said sir! Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #52

Mind you, they will need to take special, extraconstitutional measures to KEEP YOU SAFE FROM TERRRUR Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #54

Who CARES what PO says? He doesn't make those decisions. People like Sen. Feinstein do. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #55