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Reply to usGovOwesUs3Trillion (Reply #54)

Thu Aug 8, 2013, 08:55 PM

Aug 2013

1. PRIVACY - is well established online, and if anyone doubts that, they can visit almost any web site online and find a link to their privacy policy. And if anyone violates your privacy (online or off) e.g. criminals/crackers/PIRATES whatever bad actor name you are comfortable with, can and are PROSECUTED when they VIOLATE a person's right to privacy.

2. PIRACY - is the act of STEALING ones private personal information and sharing it with others. Which is how the current illegal, unprecedented SPYING activities by our own gov can be characterized.

3. INTERNET - the internet is in no way inherently insecure/not-private. That is simply untrue. And people throw that around to try and argue that there is nothing that can be done against the gov stealing our private personal information, since we, according to that false theory, have forfeited our RIGHT to privacy simply by posting our data online, or according to some (one even in this thread) even having it on our computers.

1.Privacy policies of websites do not have ANY legal weight. No one is going to get prosecuted for violating your privacy. They will get prosecuted for illegally accessing a computer system.

2. Piracy is (as I understand it) is just another term for copyright infringer. It has nothing to do with your personal info.

3. The internet is 100% insecure unless you are encrypting your data. ANY machine in the path of your data can capture and read EVERYTHING you do.

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We have a PIRACY problem, not a PRIVACY problem online. [View all] usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 OP

. Rex Aug 2013 #1

The NSA is on to you. Be careful Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #2

If you put any of those things on the Internet... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #3

I and many others put them out over the internet all the time, and you don't know them usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #5

that proves it is????? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #7

I agree, it sounds like how a little child would argue their case. Rex Aug 2013 #8

Yeah, same challenge goes to you, too. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #12

Why would I explain anything to the likes of you? Rex Aug 2013 #15

cop-out usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #16

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #17

personal insults are not tolerated here usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #35

Oh FFS Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #117

ah, more content free nonsense usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #118

You have no point. Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #121

It is inherently unsafe because for example someone could get those VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #22

They are already online usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #29

the fact that you keep saying that they are safe publically on the internet VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #31

OK. SO you never purchase anything online? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #43

Bueller usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #70

Never said that....I just am not under the illusion that it is safe! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #89

ipso facto, you must certainly NOT consider it INHERENTLY unsafe then. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #93

Probable available here: Downwinder Aug 2013 #40

So, you can't answer the question, either. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #45

Yep. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #11

Grok this "Internet Expert" VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #10

That's why we encrypt private information. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #14

Who do you think wns the strongest encryption? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #23

Pirates dont hurt you. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #4

Yes they do, but they can be prosecuted for their crimes usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #6

sue their asses!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #9

Agreed, and exactly what the ACLU has been trying to do for years now usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #13

No one here is with the NSA (that we know of) PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #18

This is too funny! pointing out some basic internet FACTS and you are reduced to insults? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #21

have you missed the last week or two of conversation? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #24

Have you missed the point of the OP? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #37

You would NEED to have some basic Internet FACTS before you tried to point some out! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #32

You caught me... shit. Agschmid Aug 2013 #25

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #19

More personal insults? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #20

You both should chill out. Agschmid Aug 2013 #27

Excuse me? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #39

When you post flamebait... Agschmid Aug 2013 #48

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #122

Given that that so many reject the premise, you then have two options LanternWaste Aug 2013 #123

I see a third option usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #124

Not just groups with 3 letters... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #26

Like i said PIRACY. Good thing us Americans have the 4th Amendment usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #33

Here's some history for ya... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #28

You are speaking of PIRACY, not PRIVACY usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #34

Ok, hold on. I May actually be getting your point with this post... PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #41

Close, and there is a sub-thread going on, too usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #54

I understand what you are trying to get at. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #56

I think I made my points pretty clear. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #61

Reply PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #71

Wrong on all 3 usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #73

end-to-end encryption. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #81

oh, well, wait... WOW, now that explains EVERYTHING usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #82

If you put that information on the Internet...it is not private anymore.. VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #90

then what's my credit card number? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #94

That's not how this works... Agschmid Aug 2013 #98

you don't say usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #103

FLAME BAIT CRAP OP. n/t Agschmid Aug 2013 #105

But.... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #119

Here is a link PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #30

Sorry, but blind links are not welcome. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #36

you have a tough time with terminology, huh? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #38

why not say what you are thinking in plain english? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #42

it was not a blind link PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #44

sure it was usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #47

I, being a guy who calls himself "lumberjack" was able to cleverly infer a number of useful bits. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #60

You guys are confusing my use of the term "PIRACY" with copyright infringement usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #63

Good job, Kreskin! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #116

If you can't tell where a posted link goes, how do you ever find out anything? hobbit709 Aug 2013 #46

Sorry, it is just common internet courtesy usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #50

Which topic? hobbit709 Aug 2013 #51

Nevermind usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #55

Me disrupt. Better take a good look in the mirror hobbit709 Aug 2013 #72

Do you have anything to contribute to this thread? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #74

Do you besides posting alert bait. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #75

+1. Agschmid Aug 2013 #76

I'll take that as a no usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #78

So do I hobbit709 Aug 2013 #79

Send me ... Koios Aug 2013 #52

Giving away your personal data is not the same thing. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #57

Be stentorian ... Koios Aug 2013 #64

Agreed 100% usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #69

Apparently you don't know that you can pay people to do background checks online... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #95

zzzZZZzzz usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #100

That was productive huh? Agschmid Aug 2013 #101

Did you know that anyone who sings "Happy Birthday to You" in a restaurant is a pirate? lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #53

That has nothing to do with your personal private data usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #58

What you are calling "piracy" is better understood as malicious hacking or identity theft. nt lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #62

Yep, and that's exactly how I would charecterize the illegal spying usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #68

Not true ... Koios Aug 2013 #66

Singing in a restaurant is "a public performance" lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #67

kr HiPointDem Aug 2013 #59

Na, no worry at all we'll just say we don't know you............. wandy Aug 2013 #65

The current controversies are mostly that the service providers are _giving_ the info to the gov't. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #77

I'd argue that the bigger one is them stealing/pirating/illegal copying of our data usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #80

How are they stealing/pirating/copying? limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #84

illegal copying usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #87

Oh ok. So we're both talking about the same thing, just calling it by different names. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #92

So, now that you're on the same page... usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #97

well limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #102

so usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #104

What's your idea... Agschmid Aug 2013 #106

Sorry, you are just a disrupter usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #110

There have been no personal attacks from me. Agschmid Aug 2013 #111

Not really limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #109

They are looking for something else... Agschmid Aug 2013 #112

I agree 100% usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #113

keep ringing those bells!11 arely staircase Aug 2013 #83

oh, look another disrupter... disrupting poorly usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #85

Just because people disagree... Agschmid Aug 2013 #86

when they post content free posts... ah, yes it does. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #88

I don't feel they need to be stopped. Agschmid Aug 2013 #91

finally usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #96

Fair enough. Agschmid Aug 2013 #99

well usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #107

No I will be here for a while. Agschmid Aug 2013 #108

then alert on it nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #114

Noting their disruption is enough usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #115

You are disrupting GD. Agschmid Aug 2013 #120