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In reply to the discussion: Wyden, Udall vindicated: Obama Admin Caught LYING? [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)15. Yup, and what's the alternative?
I always roll my eyes at the argument that people sign up for these things willingly, when, more and more, participation in our society offers little alternative, unless you want to go live in a cabin and explain to your boss why you choose not to have a cell phone or use the internet.
Last year I read the Obama administration's proposal and solicitation to the business community for plans for an internet ID. The whole thing was about how the ID would be marketed as wholly optional, but that the business plan would use financial carrots and cudgels to ensure that it would be impossible for websites to decline to require it. They want it to blanket the internet in a very short period of time and for its use to be unavoidable.
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Nope. The Patriot Act requires data collection be relevant to a specific authorized investigation.
limpyhobbler
Aug 2013
#66
you might as well as try to convince a "saved" fundamentalist Christian that the Bible is not the
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#8
This is how they reign in the internets! They own the mass media except for the net!
Dustlawyer
Aug 2013
#19