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Blue State Bandit

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179. Love how you misrepresent my argument in the title line...

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:02 PM

Aug 2013

The analogy is Ellsberg/FR stood up, and Snowden/KKK (and this is not a direct comparison between Snowden and KKK's ideology which is apparent if you bother to re-read in full, our sub-thread), sulk off in the hopes that their benefactors will shield them from answering for their actions.

The only hyporbole here is your use of said word.

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Rep. John Lewis: "NO PRAISE FOR SNOWDEN-Reports about my interview with The Guardian are misleading" [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

rec'd to complete the record. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #1

Shame on them for misrepresenting Mr. Lewis. millennialmax Aug 2013 #2

I repeat: Spreading "disinformation" about or against President Obama is a core value for the kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #55

They've misrepresented everything else, why is one more thing surprising? baldguy Aug 2013 #80

From this little contretemps, we have learned, decisively, that the GUARDIAN is a stenographer for MADem Aug 2013 #83

Oh well BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #3

Scoot over. bunnies Aug 2013 #4

scooch over AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #31

Sweet! bunnies Aug 2013 #35

How did I miss this one? Rex Aug 2013 #174

Rec for accuracy riqster Aug 2013 #5

Objectively, it sounds like Lewis didn't put his own comments in context when speaking geek tragedy Aug 2013 #6

k&r avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #26

That is what it sounds like to me also nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #49

well dang hfojvt Aug 2013 #51

You obviously don't know much about John Lewis then nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #59

It wouldn't be accurate if they left out qualifying sentences or put his sentences in a different pnwmom Aug 2013 #57

Huh? Not the GUARDIAN's fault? Wasn't there a "reporter" in the room? MADem Aug 2013 #84

"The Guardian" took "Praise out of the headline", today.. what does that Cha Aug 2013 #97

I blame the Guardian. I wondered yesterday about them having Cha Aug 2013 #95

Sounds to me like they asked him a question about the March on Washington, and then they asked MADem Aug 2013 #100

That sounds exactly how it went down. freshwest Aug 2013 #162

It sounds to me like they conflated. MADem Aug 2013 #128

+1,000. There it is, one percent media darling propaganda, well paid to do so, too. freshwest Aug 2013 #163

For those that have followed � 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #141

They think if you call 'em racist they know the pain of the oppressed and the yoke of slavery. freshwest Aug 2013 #165

OMG! The NSA is blackmailing John Lewis too???? Where will it end? randome Aug 2013 #7

Snowden fans at the Guardian ProSense Aug 2013 #8

Guardian has lost some credibility lately. moondust Aug 2013 #9

But � 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #142

This is pure damage control Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #10

And the first True Progressive throws John Lewis under the bus! geek tragedy Aug 2013 #16

The "under the bus" accusers are the first ones to actually DO so. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #52

I said his remark was deranged treestar Aug 2013 #70

If they make him pay taxes in Russia, he'll scream he's being oppressed! freshwest Aug 2013 #166

Another good point treestar Aug 2013 #167

Actually, it's just the opposite. I'll get back to you tomorrow. freshwest Aug 2013 #186

I'm always ready to learn! treestar Aug 2013 #188

Obviously not. The only objections on DU and other Progressives sites Cha Aug 2013 #98

Have you also considered the possiblity he was misrepresented? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #126

Really? � 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #143

Congressmen like to "revise and extend" their remarks. former9thward Aug 2013 #11

Without seeing the transcript, we do not know what he said. We don't know what words might have pnwmom Aug 2013 #54

Well since he did not make those charges former9thward Aug 2013 #56

It could be technically "accurate" and still leave out important context and qualifiers pnwmom Aug 2013 #58

The Reporter STUCK HIS QUESTION in the MIDDLE of what DevonRex Aug 2013 #99

Evidently Representative Lewis' Bus Position Index has now been revised to Not Under Fumesucker Aug 2013 #12

Will this get a brazillian recs? ProSense Aug 2013 #13

Predicting is hard Fumesucker Aug 2013 #15

No, he's now under the bus of the True Progressives. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #14

So you say Rep Lewis Bus Position Status has not changed and he's under the bus? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #17

He was under no bus yesterday. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #19

Who the hell would do that? Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #25

. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #27

Link doesn't work Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #29

Link works just fine. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #32

have yourself on ignore? nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #39

You are needed in the Sanjay Gupta thread Fumesucker Aug 2013 #43

I'm a fan of the obvious Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #45

Obviously Fumesucker Aug 2013 #47

I'm responsible for my own words and that's it Fumesucker Aug 2013 #28

I wonder if BBI and G4A were the same person nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #37

BBI didn't tie my optic nerves in knots trying to decypher word sausage Fumesucker Aug 2013 #46

Unless BBI was the more accurate manifestation of the person's beliefs geek tragedy Aug 2013 #62

Anything is possible of course, this is the internet Fumesucker Aug 2013 #66

BBI tended to post an article and that was all treestar Aug 2013 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Aug 2013 #104

Daffy kpete Aug 2013 #22

Here's an example why many of us would/should never do that in the first place BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #23

Nobody believed The Guardian yesterday, just like nobody believes DevonRex Aug 2013 #93

Exactly, those horrible liberals, warping everything to their viewpoint Fumesucker Aug 2013 #107

LOL. DevonRex Aug 2013 #114

You reply to a point I didn't make Fumesucker Aug 2013 #122

Does this mean the Guardian... gulp... LIED? BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #18

Put their partisan spin on it nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #20

What else is new? It's one step above The Daily Mail. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #33

K & R. n/t FSogol Aug 2013 #21

R#13 & K for, nothing to hmmmmm about!1 n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #24

but please, UTUSN kpete Aug 2013 #30

Sure he did. Then he stuck that question in the middle for the article. DevonRex Aug 2013 #145

Media spin is in full swing Life Long Dem Aug 2013 #34

Why the hell is Snowden still a story? djean111 Aug 2013 #36

Perhaps you missed the big "John Lewis proclaims Snowden our generation's Rosa Parks" geek tragedy Aug 2013 #38

I saw them. djean111 Aug 2013 #42

Takes two to tango on it. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #44

A need for heroes and villains, archetypes I think Joseph Campbell calls them Fumesucker Aug 2013 #53

Policy is boring. Requires attention to details, putting things in context, and dealing in geek tragedy Aug 2013 #63

I saw a couple of threads yesterday.. and decided not to comment Peacetrain Aug 2013 #40

A good rule of thumb to use. randome Aug 2013 #68

Hey Peacetrain~ I commented several times that Cha Aug 2013 #92

Hi Cha.. The Guardian Peacetrain Aug 2013 #144

.. Cha Aug 2013 #148

My sentiments exactly. Progressives take heed. Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #41

"if you can't do the time, don't do the crime." zeemike Aug 2013 #50

It means if you choose to do the crime, you had better be prepared to do the time. Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #69

I don't think Snoweden was suprised by it. zeemike Aug 2013 #78

Are you saying they were barred from leaving the country? Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #87

What you think the Freedom Riders rode the bus zeemike Aug 2013 #108

Missing my point... on purpose? Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #170

How was the KKK trying to shape public opinion? zeemike Aug 2013 #172

You are completely misconstruing my argument. KKK and the Freedom Riders are Juxtaposed... Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #175

"Snow den is to Ellsberg as KKK is to Freedom Riders" zeemike Aug 2013 #177

Love how you misrepresent my argument in the title line... Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #179

I misrepresented them by quoting you? zeemike Aug 2013 #180

out of context. Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #181

Yeah, it is Snowden's fault the powerful aren't held to account. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #182

But 2 months later, we are left squabbling over insufficient information... Blue State Bandit Aug 2013 #183

So the not being able to hold the powerful accountable section can be nixed? TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #187

It looks like "they" got to him and forced him to walk back his comments. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #48

No, it looks like the Guardian is acting more and more like the other British tabloids. pnwmom Aug 2013 #64

Considering that Lewis and everyone in his family may be under surveillance, OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #65

What an utterly deranged comment. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #73

It must hurt to be that paranoid. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #74

no brains, no headaches nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #76

LOL. millennialmax Aug 2013 #77

It hurts to reply to stupid people. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #151

Take it to "Creative Speculation" if you don't want to be challenged. emulatorloo Aug 2013 #168

prosecution for what? treestar Aug 2013 #75

"Someone" made her plead guilty for taking bribes? BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #79

These are the same idiots who think that John Lewis is easily intimidated nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #86

I see the crew is out and about to call you crazy. zeemike Aug 2013 #82

The claim that the Obama administration is threatening to put John Lewis's family geek tragedy Aug 2013 #85

It's Insulting to Congressman Lewis and shows(once again) Cha Aug 2013 #106

Ah, the crew. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #152

I'll bet that's true - the spooks got to him. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #89

I'll bet only crazy people agree with you that John Lewis is lying because geek tragedy Aug 2013 #116

That was my first thought, as well. woo me with science Aug 2013 #96

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #115

The immediate resort to namecalling woo me with science Aug 2013 #136

Heh, you question John Lewis's integrity and courage and then geek tragedy Aug 2013 #138

Oh, my. woo me with science Aug 2013 #150

Oh yeah, more paranoid conspiracy theories from the snowden crowd. Cha Aug 2013 #101

No, it's a matter of simple logic re: motives. woo me with science Aug 2013 #110

The MOTIVE is the slimy Guardian reporter USED an interview with DevonRex Aug 2013 #119

That slimeball reporter got in the door by saying he wanted to interview him about the fiftieth MADem Aug 2013 #124

GMTA. I just wrote a long post saying that. DevonRex Aug 2013 #127

Yep--they GAMED the guy, they lied about the purpose of the interview (March on Washington) and MADem Aug 2013 #129

Lewis is not claiming the quotes were fabricated. He's saying they were taken out of context geek tragedy Aug 2013 #120

What's OOC is the QUESTION. The reporter stuck it in where it DevonRex Aug 2013 #135

I think the "they" here is Democrats burnodo Aug 2013 #103

Amazing how you people throw John Lewis under the bus, call him a liar, and then geek tragedy Aug 2013 #118

So why did he walk back his comments? burnodo Aug 2013 #147

He didn't "walk back" a thing BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #157

Under the bus Lewis goes? ecstatic Aug 2013 #133

No, see reply #184 n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #185

Are you saying he is a liar? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #134

No this certainly does not rise to that level. He is a man of totodeinhere Aug 2013 #184

As The Guardian Spins~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #60

"The Guardian" and "misleading" in the same sentence? Quelle Surprise! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #61

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #67

i agree some of the news reports made him sound more supportive than he was Enrique Aug 2013 #72

Oh dear--I said this yesterday, and was personally insulted for comprehending the obvious. MADem Aug 2013 #81

You will largely hear crickets from the insulting, attack crowd. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #105

Never mind that the "reporter" (I use quotes because that's debatable) wasn't interviewing Rep Lewis MADem Aug 2013 #112

Hey move over.. Cha Aug 2013 #109

I knew he was going to correct the record. I just didn't know how. MADem Aug 2013 #111

Thank goodness in a way that this has been Cha Aug 2013 #113

These same morons are now claiming that Lewis is lying and that the reason geek tragedy Aug 2013 #117

Anyone who has ever been in the presence of John Lewis knows that's a bullshit argument! MADem Aug 2013 #121

Trolls, all of them. Seriously, anyone who talks that kind of shit about John Lewis is geek tragedy Aug 2013 #123

Certainly not walking the "progressive" walk, at a minimum...! nt MADem Aug 2013 #125

We've been chatting about this in the AA forum. I'm surprised you weren't there! Number23 Aug 2013 #130

I'll get over there--I said it yesterday; I knew Lewis wasn't jumping on the Yeah Eddie bandwagon. MADem Aug 2013 #131

Freaky--a double post--I rarely see those in DU3...happened all the time in DU2... MADem Aug 2013 #131

"Claim a Negro" is exactly right. I guess the "I have a Black friend" and the "Cornel West msanthrope Aug 2013 #137

Somebody tried to "invoke" Corny too! Thread sank like a damn stone. Number23 Aug 2013 #146

The ODS of the emoprogs has never been shriller and funnier--I can only imagine the msanthrope Aug 2013 #149

Interesting. blackspade Aug 2013 #88

It was The Guardian. Anyone with half a brain CELL knew Lewis DevonRex Aug 2013 #90

Never said what? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #91

Never said: ProSense Aug 2013 #94

Thank you for posting this. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #102

Let's see... Oilwellian Aug 2013 #139

Don�t Ya Just Hate � 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #140

Don't you just love it... Cha Aug 2013 #156

It's becoming ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #161

" It's becoming .. " Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #164

John Lewis is a hero of mine. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #153

I wonder who talked to him and what they said. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #154

Looks Like The Party Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #155

No. Looks like the Guardian engages in "yellow journalism" and gullible folks bought it. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #158

You're new to politics, aren't you? Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #159

No and you're naive about propaganda. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #160

Quite the opposite. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #169

I don't subscribe to woo conspiracy theories or their purveyors. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #171

Some can't understand the difference between supporting reform and Snowden. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #176

Exactly. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #178

Well well well... Rex Aug 2013 #173