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31. NYT
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:21 PM
Aug 2013

on Friday's presser:


President Obama, who seems to think the American people simply need some reassurance that their privacy rights are intact, proposed a series of measures on Friday that only tinker around the edges of the nation’s abusive surveillance programs.

He said he wants “greater oversight, greater transparency, and constraints” on the mass collection of every American’s phone records by the National Security Agency. He didn’t specify what those constraints and oversight measures would be, only that he would work with Congress to develop them. But, in the meantime, the collection of records will continue as it has for years, gathering far more information than is necessary to fight terrorism . . .

Fundamentally, Mr. Obama does not seem to understand that the nation needs to hear more than soothing words about the government’s spying enterprise. He suggested that if ordinary people trusted the government not to abuse their privacy, they wouldn’t mind the vast collection of phone and e-mail data . . .

As long as the N.S.A. believes it has the right to collect records of every phone call — and the administration released a white paper Friday that explained, unconvincingly, why it is perfectly legal — then none of the promises to stay within the law will mean a thing.


. . . well said, NYT.

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We do its called SOCIAL MEDIA... Historic NY Aug 2013 #1
I'm sure there's been a line on me long before the clicking became mainstream bigtree Aug 2013 #3
This comment is so sad because it demonstrates how successful the 'grooming' of citizens sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
Yep, they are screwed, did it to themselves too. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #2
They'll insist this still isn't proof LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #4
This article is about ProSense Aug 2013 #5
it's clear enough to me, ProSense, how this program is being described bigtree Aug 2013 #7
Congress is ProSense Aug 2013 #10
very good points; especially 'Congress' and their responsibility to lead bigtree Aug 2013 #12
"Big Tree"...this is an important Rant from you.... KoKo Aug 2013 #6
It's a surprising rant. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #8
Where is Bigtree, and what have you done with him? leftstreet Aug 2013 #9
Thanks for the post. Bookmarking. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #11
The Stazi didn't call it spying Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #13
So every time I send an e-mail or a FaceBook message to a friend in Argentina, Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #14
This is where the weasel parsing comes in Catherina Aug 2013 #15
rec read this ^^^ bigtree Aug 2013 #17
1 more thing. NSA can search your emails for talking *about* a target, not just talking *to* Catherina Aug 2013 #23
rules?! They don't need no steeekin' rules! bigtree Aug 2013 #26
Recommend. KoKo Aug 2013 #19
that's the start alc Aug 2013 #16
rec, continue reading alc's summary ^^^ bigtree Aug 2013 #18
Recommend. KoKo Aug 2013 #20
+1000. Thank you n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #24
They're going to store it and read it. Th1onein Aug 2013 #28
It was disappointing that he used the word "Spying".. KoKo Aug 2013 #21
Great post! nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #25
K&R nt Zorra Aug 2013 #27
today's presser bigtree Aug 2013 #29
He thought he said "pieing", as we do not hit people with pies...of course. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #30
NYT bigtree Aug 2013 #31
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