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hlthe2b

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81. Persecuted, not prosecuted... I've never maintained the latter.

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President Obama: Mr. Snowden has been charged with three felonies. [View all] ProSense Aug 2013 OP

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #1

How long have you been following.. I mean trolling? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #4

Well then, your post actually seems like it needs some serious house training. Cha Aug 2013 #6

Who the fuck are you, and why are you "following" me and posting weird comments? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #7

You know what's cool? You don't HAVE to do it! CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #14

Uh oh! Lot's of actual facts in this post DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #2

Not a fan of that pesky "innocent until proven guilty" part of the constitution, it seems. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #3

You run to Russia when you are innocent? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #5

After seeing how Manning was treated, he had reason to question.... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #8

Although it has nothing to do with Manning, at least Manning faced a court of law.... George II Aug 2013 #39

+1000 Amonester Aug 2013 #43

Why not just ask if he stopped beating his wife yet? GoneFishin Aug 2013 #13

He beat his wife too? That will be another felony... DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #16

Did he get married? If not, shouldn't the question be whether he stopped beating his girlfriend? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #31

No, in some cases, if if you actually want to win... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #37

Actually, ProSense Aug 2013 #11

He equated the fact Snowden faced three felony counts with proof that he is NOT a Patriot. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #15

What? It's his opinion in response to a question. It has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #17

That's right, it does NOT. Yet he equated felony charges with proof he is NOT patriotic hlthe2b Aug 2013 #18

LOL! Perfect detailed response. See the OP. ProSense Aug 2013 #19

That's a very rude response. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #24

No, it isn't, but I guess you think saying that makes it so. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #26

Your reliance on sarcasm and snark makes it so hlthe2b Aug 2013 #29

No, and the response was not snark. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #33

I'll take that as your apology then. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #35

It wasn't because I stand by the comment. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #36

then that simply reflects even more poorly on you hlthe2b Aug 2013 #49

No, I think your comments are a sign of desperation. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #52

Ahh, more insults.... (and projecting)... Really, PS, that is pretty damn transparent. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #54

I think your comment "reflects even more poorly on you" n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #56

and more projection.... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #57

You're right. And since Bush & Cheney are not facing any felony counts, ... AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #32

Reread the transcript (or the OP) - the quoted excerpt wasn't in response to the "Patriot" question! George II Aug 2013 #40

Here: (it could not be clearer) hlthe2b Aug 2013 #58

That's a Foxism, a cleverly crafted edit from a long, elaborate answer to a question........ George II Aug 2013 #85

That's not part of the constitution. millennialmax Aug 2013 #20

How many whistleblowers shawn703 Aug 2013 #64

Obama's War on Whistleblowers hlthe2b Aug 2013 #65

Sorry shawn703 Aug 2013 #66

If YOU do some further research (& no, I don't have time to do so tonight), you'll find the OSC has hlthe2b Aug 2013 #69

I found this shawn703 Aug 2013 #70

Read the whistleblower statutes with respect to legality... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #71

There has to be a claim somewhere shawn703 Aug 2013 #72

I'd imagine it would require more than the 20 minutes you've spent thus far to research the matter.. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #73

I googled EPA whistleblowers fracking shawn703 Aug 2013 #74

Just becuse it ws leaked to NYT does NOT mean they didn't try OSC route first... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #75

It would be a pretty newsworthy piece of information wouldn't it? shawn703 Aug 2013 #80

Google "Failulre of Office of Special Counsel and whistleblowers" as a start hlthe2b Aug 2013 #76

I found an article about Charles M Smith shawn703 Aug 2013 #79

Persecuted, not prosecuted... I've never maintained the latter. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #81

How many whistleblowers who have gone through proper channels have been prosecuted? George II Aug 2013 #86

Persecuted, not prosecuted... (and one is hardly better than the other) hlthe2b Aug 2013 #88

Bad answer, but regardless, how many have been either PROS or PERS ecuted? George II Aug 2013 #89

Not true. But the US constitution doesn't apply in Russia. If Snowden ever returns here, pnwmom Aug 2013 #83

Mahalo, PS Cha Aug 2013 #9

"he can come here, appear before the court with a lawyer and make his case" Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #10

I'm not sure what you're after by way of response DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #12

Perhaps if you have listened in 2005 you would have heard Bush when he spoke about Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #27

So? Caretha Aug 2013 #42

So I guess several who post they would not know about the collections needs to line up to climb a Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #45

That was an answer? Caretha Aug 2013 #59

Sorry it went over your head, was saying some will go to great lenghts to tell lies Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #62

You know Caretha Aug 2013 #63

I am neither drunk nor delusional, you can mark me on ignore and stay angry, I can not change your Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #77

K&R! nt sheshe2 Aug 2013 #21

There can sometimes be a difference between what is right ...... oldhippie Aug 2013 #22

Juries can do whatever they choose, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #23

Juries are instructed strictly by the judge to only rule on the letter of the law davidn3600 Aug 2013 #28

^^ This ^^ oldhippie Aug 2013 #48

You don't think even one member of a jury Progressive dog Aug 2013 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author davidn3600 Aug 2013 #25

Because they've made it illegal to expose unconstitutional acts. dkf Aug 2013 #34

So as I have said elsewhere several times, he's too gutless to face the consequences of his actions. George II Aug 2013 #41

Maybe he feels, as do many others, ... oldhippie Aug 2013 #47

As long as he's too chicken shit to find out, we'll never know. George II Aug 2013 #55

Who here who thinks Snowden is innocent? Even Snowden knows he is not innocent, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #30

This is as transparent as it gets. raindaddy Aug 2013 #38

Yeah, but Snowden is a coward. Amonester Aug 2013 #46

Red state I bet! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #78

And who charged him with the three felonies? rug Aug 2013 #44

I think the most important thing Snowden has asserted through his actions burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #50

''...charged with felonies.'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #51

NYT editorial: Snowden's "fears do not qualify him for asylum" ProSense Aug 2013 #53

Tell that to Russia Caretha Aug 2013 #60

This should be it's own OP, Madding is the reason they're justifying Snowden running to uponit7771 Aug 2013 #61

Madding who? Caretha Aug 2013 #67

lol...watching football...manning uponit7771 Aug 2013 #68

Thanks. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #84

And, the people who have been spying on Americans have been charged with......? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #87