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davidthegnome

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27. All valid points
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 07:47 PM
Feb 2012

None of which are going to matter if the "Iran = nuclear destruction" scare continues to build both here and in Israel. Of course, there's the money to consider as well, I imagine a military occupation of Iran would be beneficial in regards to oil supply. If the oil companies want war, hell, if the Super PACs want it... they can buy it. The nuclear scare may just be how they're going to sell it to the people.

Fact is, we have as many gas guzzling SUVs now as we had then - they're just older and more used. Prices at the pump might even go down if we managed to get a strangle-hold over Iran's supply. How many players are in this game? Will the Russians try to stop us? The Chinese, maybe?

There are dangerous Countries - arguably ruled by lunatics, that presently have nuclear weapons. We haven't hit them yet, we're not talking about war (with them) like it's imminent. So why Iran? All we have to do is follow the oil/money. There will be many rationalizations and justifications, "We're bringing them Freedom from their tyrannical government", "They would have (eventually) nuked Israel if we hadn't stopped them!", "Rebuilding Iran, regime change in Iran, will stabilize the middle east and grant us another ally for decades to come.."

Most of them are bull, but they will appeal to plenty of people. Ultimately though, the fact of the matter is that the government doesn't have to convince us. If it comes to a vote, we don't get one. Congress will - and can you see our conservative congress drooling over the prospect of invading an oil rich Nation? I can. I can see oil execs (the really rich ones) rubbing their hands together in anticipation of all that campaign money coming back.

We can vote to elect different people next time around, get them out of office, maybe... or maybe not, it's hard to stop campaigning politicians when they have nearly unlimited wealth at their beckon call. I'm just way too cynical at this point to think we have any real control over such things.

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No thanks, you lay down with dogs you get fleas NNN0LHI Feb 2012 #1
spoken like someone who wont flexnor Feb 2012 #3
Spoken like someone... LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #39
I would have not cared less about politics if German right-wingers had stopped the Nazis during WWII cpwm17 Feb 2012 #13
thanks - someone here actually understands the term 'strange bedfellows' flexnor Feb 2012 #24
I really just support Ron Paul on the issue of not going to war. JNathanK Feb 2012 #37
I was once told by a British intellectual far-right-winger LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #40
Agreed. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #19
There's a difference, though, in the way those two would make the argument against war RZM Feb 2012 #26
THANK YOU!!!! flexnor Feb 2012 #30
They are all bigots. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #31
Hate to break it to you RZM Feb 2012 #33
Hate to break it to you: I didn't say they were. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #34
Let's take a step back RZM Feb 2012 #35
You need to step back and re-read...just like the Hitler remark, I didn't say you endorsed them. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #36
They are not literally Nazis; but here are some quotations from Buchanan's own website LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #42
That stuff is all well known RZM Feb 2012 #43
how can you be so obtuse? flexnor Feb 2012 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #46
How can you be? Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #48
Re-elect Barack Obama POTUS in 2012 Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #2
actually, Buchanan has suggested just that flexnor Feb 2012 #5
Ron Paul'ers could be persuaded to break from GOP to Obama against Iran war flexnor Feb 2012 #8
I'm afraid your conclusion doesn't follow your assumptions, which are erroneous leveymg Feb 2012 #11
yeah but Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #12
Ever heard of the "good cop, bad cop" game? leveymg Feb 2012 #14
I'm not entirely convinced that is what is going on Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #15
The object may not be to attack, per se, but that may well be the result. leveymg Feb 2012 #16
War with Iran would be a huge mess Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #17
Once tensions get high enough, war becomes probable. Look at World War One - the war no one wanted, leveymg Feb 2012 #18
I'm not naive enough Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #20
Iran is being baited and provoked, and even false flags arent flexnor Feb 2012 #45
No, your conclusion is the one which is erroneous. TheWraith Feb 2012 #21
All the other neo-cons, besides Paul, are psychos for war n/t JNathanK Feb 2012 #38
Ugh SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #4
when those across the political spectrum unite on an issue flexnor Feb 2012 #6
the warmongers fear guys like buchanan and ron paul more than they fear you flexnor Feb 2012 #7
Do you really think it can be stopped? davidthegnome Feb 2012 #9
that's a fair arguement, and you may be right, but flexnor Feb 2012 #10
All valid points davidthegnome Feb 2012 #27
Trying to sell accommodation with Buchanan and Paul MineralMan Feb 2012 #22
I'm selling full effort against a senseless war with Iran flexnor Feb 2012 #23
and if you read carefully, i'm selling splitting the GOP before an election flexnor Feb 2012 #25
I'm not buying anything you're selling. MineralMan Feb 2012 #28
how about this then? flexnor Feb 2012 #29
Fuck em both Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #32
'how will this war authorization vote affect my next election?" flexnor Feb 2012 #44
Anyone else notice that we took out saudi arabia's enemy in response to 911? flexnor Feb 2012 #47
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