face it: Snowden/Greenwald forced Obama's/NSA's hand, and built real power to change things

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52. From my reading of Snowden's motives, and from those for whom I have respect who've

been where he is now, his motives are as pure as we are ever going to get. Ellsberg calls him 'the man we've been waiting for, for 40 years'. I know WE'VE been waiting for over a decade with no hope in sight even AFTER we WON.

If there was a timetable, we sure weren't privy to it. Same old, same old. We get some hope, then years go by, five going on six now and instead of reigning in the Surveillance state, it just got worse.

Crumbs is what we get. IF Obama really wants what he claims he wants, now is his chance. STOP talking about Snowden, instead talk about Ron Wyden, talk TO him. Talk about Bush's dangerous policies, jump on the growing bandwagon NOW before it's too late.

But from our perspective, we saw the NDDA, the Patriot Act renewed, secret this, secret that, secret 'kill lists', secret courts, secret warrants etc etc.

But we the people, had zero input. Nor did our Progressive Reps in Congress.

Someone had to force their hands, and Snowden has done it. However, we have been here before. And my fear is that Obama did what he did yesterday, to try to delay the Bills being prepared by Congress to begin the process of reigning all this in.

They should go ahead and not be dissuaded. And he can join them. It is their duty.