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sheshe2

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Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:34 PM Aug 2013

Please proceed, Glenn [View all]

While President Obama was holding a press conference yesterday to lay out his proposed reforms to surveillance programs, both the NSA and DOJ released white papers documenting the specific programs and justifying their legality/constitutionality.

So now we'll wait to see if folks like Glenn Greenwald will take the time to analyze this information to the extent they picked through the documents released by Snowden. I'm personally not going to hold my breath for that. Because if you just assume that the government lies, there's no need to pay attention to what the President or DOJ or NSA say - you simply mock it and spend all your time talking about the guy you recently said we should ignore in favor of a discussion about the policy. And gawd forbid that you ever lower yourself to actually propose any reforms yourself. Because then those would be subjected to the same kind of scrutiny you expect others to apply to the President's proposals.


So, Glenn do you simply Mock it?

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That must've been a fun meeting where they came up with the "reforms" to offer: "Hey, I got one: an NSA transparency website!" - "good one!"

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/366206144433242115

Or do you spend all your time talking about the guy you recently said we should ignore in favor of a discussion about the policy.

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Obama's claim that the debate would have happened absent Snowden's revelations is . . . laughable http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/09/the-president-is-wrong-the-nsa-debate-wouldnt-have-happened-without-snowden/

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/365933487158603776


Take a moment with me to imagine what an actual "activist journalist" would do now that his priority issue is center stage in the public discussion. Would that journalist simply be spending his time mocking reform proposals and consumed with touting he and his leaker's reputation? Or would s/he be celebrating the conversation and engaging with proposals of their own? If you suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome and are only concerned with your own celebrity, you would do the former. If, on the other hand, you were deeply committed to the issue you pretend is your priority, you would do the latter.

As the President said yesterday, this is not how he would have preferred to have the conversation. But having it we are. Its Glenn Greenwald's chance to show his true colors. Please proceed, Glenn.


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Please proceed, Glenn [View all] sheshe2 Aug 2013 OP
LOL'ing on twitter - that's journalism these days. nt bhikkhu Aug 2013 #1
if it doesn't fit the pull it all down paradigm arely staircase Aug 2013 #2
Only the gullible believe proven liars. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #3
You can include Gen Clapper. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #9
And only the truly moronic see things in black and white Egnever Aug 2013 #11
Correct! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #30
Ugh the guy is such a tool giftedgirl77 Aug 2013 #4
This is about right: ProSense Aug 2013 #5
The ODS'S sheshe2 Aug 2013 #7
K & R Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #14
Yes and, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #31
He oozes professionalism, doesn't he? millennialmax Aug 2013 #6
another no-name blogger jagoff weighs in.. frylock Aug 2013 #8
Sorry that you can not appreciate what she blogs~A no-name jagoff. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #13
It appears frylock seems to take this personally sometimes. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #16
Yes, sad really. Cha Aug 2013 #32
thanks for the eval, dr. frist frylock Aug 2013 #34
You are most welcome Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #35
Unrec cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #10
A person interested in real reform wouldn't be mocking any process that's being implemented.. Cha Aug 2013 #12
"Yeah, greenwald would be "laughable"(har har) if he weren't so damn tragically pathetic." sheshe2 Aug 2013 #15
Well, ORLY TAITZ did start a petition in favor of Snowden. millennialmax Aug 2013 #18
Oh Oiley Taint... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #19
Prescisely she! NSA Trufers! Cha Aug 2013 #20
I don't care, it started a conversation Obama was avoiding! That is a good thing! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2013 #25
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #21
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #22
folks "like" Glenn Greenwald? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #23
Since Greenwald has not been factual at times, nope it will not be folks who are factual. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #36
To hell with the NSA! another_liberal Aug 2013 #24
All I need to know is found by following the money: freshwest Aug 2013 #26
Three generations of duping America! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #33
.......................................... Nothing on the internet can be deleted. earcandle Aug 2013 #27
Oh goody, another anonymous blogger attacks transparency blackspade Aug 2013 #28
Suffering from ODS, eh. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #37
LOL! blackspade Aug 2013 #38
k/r CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #29
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #39
Glenn Greenwald is a fucking clown. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #40
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