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DirkGently

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4. It's not like secret surveillance ever HASN'T been abused.

Reply to Newsjock (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:10 AM

Aug 2013

It wasn't a secret when the Fourth Amendment was proposed either.

We seem to be forgetting that we have these restrictions not because of some paranoid fantasy, but because raids and searches and eavesdropping ARE tools for hurting the citizenry. It's not that secrecy CAN be abused. It's that these forms of secrecy and lack of due process are inherently abusive.

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Cory Doctorow: Why we should care about privacy [View all] Newsjock Aug 2013 OP

It should be protected on the premise of, " Why do you NEED to know ? " orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #1

K&R KoKo Aug 2013 #2

Amazing. I just made this point hours ago. 7wo7rees Aug 2013 #3

It's not like secret surveillance ever HASN'T been abused. DirkGently Aug 2013 #4

Were TPTB's motives pure and bad cops did not exist, any and all erosion of indepat Aug 2013 #5