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96. After Citizens United, we don't stand a chance

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 08:02 AM

Aug 2013

The next President will have to raise a billion or more dollars to overcome the combined Repub/Koch/Adelson/ect nutcase billionaires. Are there 10 million liberals who are able/willing to donate 100$ to, say, Elizabeth Warren? And do it in fall of 2015 to early spring 2016? Because the model right now is for the rich democratic leaning donors to pick -"anoint" - a candidate with their million+ dollar bundles.

Let's face it, there are more than enough uninterested voters in this country who make their decisions only based on what they see on TV and hear on the radio. They decide elections. Plus it takes serious money to work a ground campaign in 50 states. That has to be there early. Just having the best message/plan and heart doesn't do it.

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You know, Obama has disappointed a lot of people..... [View all] Mr. David Aug 2013 OP

I like how you think, and I hope you're right... CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #1

LOL Egnever Aug 2013 #2

I am embarrassed that I was so naive to fall for his BS. I wont be fooled by The Turd WAy again. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #3

Me either. First time was for Obama, last time against Romney. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #5

That was exactly it for me too. Although I held my nose and worked on his campaign the 2nd time too Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #152

I feel exactly the same way! n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #200

What have you done to push Congress, the electorate, or the President in the right direction? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #4

Exactly Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #9

why do you assume the author has done nothing else but be a spectator? Skittles Aug 2013 #29

I asked a question. But very many people, whom I have met, seem to believe that merely expressing struggle4progress Aug 2013 #41

it is not uncommon for people on political boards to be doing much, much more Skittles Aug 2013 #42

And it's not uncommon for posters on political boards simply to whine and jeez struggle4progress Aug 2013 #66

You mean sort of like you are doing now? 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #68

but you cannot ASSUME that Skittles Aug 2013 #148

Too many people believe they're customers in the diner, Obama is the waiter, and MADem Aug 2013 #56

My cook is just fine thank you very much, it's everyone else's damn cooks that's the problem Fumesucker Aug 2013 #84

That is what everyone says. MADem Aug 2013 #87

I know Fumesucker Aug 2013 #94

Obama always said make me do it. rainy Aug 2013 #57

I think it's a great story, once properly understood: organize to create the political pressure struggle4progress Aug 2013 #65

No Way Drahthaardogs Aug 2013 #71

+1, n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #81

Feet on the street PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #126

Because he's a recurring creepy-ass troll who hates Obama supporters. DevonRex Aug 2013 #166

If you have to ask, you don't need an answer. It wouldn't satisfy you. We WON for them sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #150

What nonsense. ProSense Aug 2013 #6

Aha! This woman is a Third Wayer! Mr. David Aug 2013 #7

+1000 Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #8

of course...the inevitable peanut gallery chimes in to support a derogatory remark Sheepshank Aug 2013 #122

Only when it's accurate Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #129

nope..no accuracy involved....it's like a knee jerk reaction with you Sheepshank Aug 2013 #135

Coming from you its a compliment Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #145

it wasn't intended as one Sheepshank Aug 2013 #162

Not good on picking up on sarcasm are you? Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #184

Just simply chose not to indulge the self depreciating compliment Sheepshank Aug 2013 #199

Rigghhht.. Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #205

It's a stupid insult.. and a lie coming from a troll who has been banned. Cha Aug 2013 #172

what does "worship the feet he is on" even mean? arely staircase Aug 2013 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author ProSense Aug 2013 #11

You don't have shit else to do but "research" an anonymous poster on a web site? Number23 Aug 2013 #13

This place is tired of the invasion. Truly. nt laundry_queen Aug 2013 #15

What does your post mean? "Invasion" of who? Number23 Aug 2013 #16

I'm tired of the invasion of Ron/Rand Paul supporters, myself. MADem Aug 2013 #69

You are not alone JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #76

I just bite my tongue and sing! MADem Aug 2013 #106

Was it a coordinated effort, I wonder? harrylimelives999 Aug 2013 #98

Well, this particular one has left the building. MADem Aug 2013 #132

I agree Andy823 Aug 2013 #103

Hell no, you are not alone. Number23 Aug 2013 #153

You are definitely not alone, MADem. Hekate Aug 2013 #180

I agree. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #37

LOL. nt laundry_queen Aug 2013 #39

I'll tell you what I'm sick of... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #53

Well said. When all one has is "Oh yeah. Well you're a paid shill," it means either pampango Aug 2013 #73

Well I disagree it doesn't exist. laundry_queen Aug 2013 #142

But the person accused of being part of an invasion has been a DUer for years... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #178

Thank you Violet for that well-reasoned reply. Much appreciated! nt Hekate Aug 2013 #181

No worries at all, Hekate! Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #182

there was one pretty famous one awhile back. laundry_queen Aug 2013 #183

EarlG tombstoned the OP. DevonRex Aug 2013 #165

EarlG was tired of the invasion and assholery of the OP DevonRex Aug 2013 #164

Your point is? laundry_queen Aug 2013 #176

You got ur head on straight! ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #193

Does that mean you're leaving? burnodo Aug 2013 #17

Eh, I'll give that a C- because knowing you, you probably had to Number23 Aug 2013 #19

took me about a half a millisecond burnodo Aug 2013 #20

Well, just think what you could do with TWO milliseconds! Number23 Aug 2013 #21

really not good at this are you? burnodo Aug 2013 #22

Because your witty and pithy contributions have left us all breathless! Number23 Aug 2013 #25

thats obvious burnodo Aug 2013 #26

I am cut to the quick. Did you get an embryo to type this for you? Number23 Aug 2013 #28

keep digging burnodo Aug 2013 #102

Looks like you're the one holding the shovel Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #130

*spray" Number23 Aug 2013 #154

Perhaps because they are *tired* of the same pro-Obama BS? Mr. David Aug 2013 #36

Just starting to 'rumble'? Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #51

I want to be a Jet! JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #79

ha!! Number23 Aug 2013 #155

I think what might be rumbling is his widdle tummy.... MADem Aug 2013 #134

Well, not to worry Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #149

In the meantime, that pizza will ease his little rumble~! MADem Aug 2013 #161

What does that post mean? You're just starting to rumble? MADem Aug 2013 #70

I see you and your anti-Obama BS have rumbled right out of here.. :) Cha Aug 2013 #168

I've been on a few juries where personal insults sufrommich Aug 2013 #85

embarrassing confession arely staircase Aug 2013 #124

Moral for Arely: ALWAYS READ THE DAMN THREAD!! Number23 Aug 2013 #156

I know. I felt like a total idiot afterword. Especially when it came out 3-3 arely staircase Aug 2013 #157

Yeah, I had already stated downthread that Cha Aug 2013 #174

You are right Cha, this is better! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #195

Creepy, creepy post. And, if true, creepy behavior. nt DevonRex Aug 2013 #18

Typical extremist behavior. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #23

I think Skinner said it best on your "paid shill' shit.. Cha Aug 2013 #38

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #86

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #194

Well, if you've got the dirt on ProSense Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #45

lol.. yeah, put up or stfu. It's like playground bullies 101.. this is the Cha Aug 2013 #50

i'll take YOUR word with less than a grain of salt. spanone Aug 2013 #119

Seriously? Sheepshank Aug 2013 #121

hoo! bigtree Aug 2013 #128

And, you.. what are you? It shows in your transparency page that Cha Aug 2013 #169

Aha! This man is a Childish Insulter! Hekate Aug 2013 #179

They can only call you names because like Skinner posted.. Cha Aug 2013 #49

I consider myself a Liberal Californeeway Aug 2013 #10

I disagree. laundry_queen Aug 2013 #24

bull. a majority of americans support the flagship liberal programs, social security & medicare; HiPointDem Aug 2013 #27

complete bs Skittles Aug 2013 #30

+1 for a voice of reason. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #32

Too many people treat fellow Dems, who will vote for the best interests of MADem Aug 2013 #127

One can hope PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #12

Actually ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #43

You know so much about me. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #111

I find you to be overly optimistic hfojvt Aug 2013 #14

You know, Obama has not disappointed a lot of people ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #31

+100,000,000,000,000 RFKHumphreyObama Aug 2013 #35

:-) millennialmax Aug 2013 #40

You need to add "This post is Matt Damon approved" to the Label-Maker (TM) Number23 Aug 2013 #46

Thank you, Summer. Skidmore Aug 2013 #89

+1000 JoePhilly Aug 2013 #189

Now that was well done, Summer Hathaway! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #196

The Senate is at serious risk for 2014. You have this backwards. pnwmom Aug 2013 #33

Yes. 2014 is an extremely important election and the short sightedness of Skidmore Aug 2013 #118

Won't get any argument out of me. Oakenshield Aug 2013 #34

President Obama has NOT "disappointed a lot people" including these Cha Aug 2013 #44

The Third Way Democrats are Demopublicans for all I'm concerned AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #47

People who want to go to College aren't disappointed, either. Cha Aug 2013 #48

do you realize those loans are going to be lower now sure.... ejpoeta Aug 2013 #64

Not disappointed, but still doomed. Nothing done to make college more affordable. reformist2 Aug 2013 #120

I don't use the word disappointed because I knew that he was the largest recipient of Wall Street Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #52

I wish we could rec individual posts, coz I'd give that one a rec... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #54

Pretty much nolabels Aug 2013 #58

Give Obama a Democratic Congress and then step back and see what happens. MADem Aug 2013 #55

I would hate to see what would happen the way he bends over to appease the Conservative IncessantPerfidy Aug 2013 #59

Well, enjoy your stay here. MADem Aug 2013 #60

He gets the blame because he does not fight for what the MAJORITY wants when he does fight he fights IncessantPerfidy Aug 2013 #62

Review how a bill gets to the President's desk, to be signed into law. MADem Aug 2013 #72

Oh my! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #197

That one wasn't even subtle. I'm appreciative that Skinner is TCBing, but it's MADem Aug 2013 #201

What is amazing to me, she.. is that they Cha Aug 2013 #204

You really need to do research on the facts and then come back Cha Aug 2013 #202

You really don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you? Cha Aug 2013 #203

correct me if my memory is wrong (l am getting old) but wasn't there a Democratic majority in both Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #61

That's cut right from one of Romney's stump speeches--in case you didn't realize it. MADem Aug 2013 #74

The filibuster could have been reformed MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #77

How, without a supermajority? nt MADem Aug 2013 #92

Only 51 votes needed to change the filibuster rules. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #99

The problem, though, is without that supermajority, all we get out of it is MADem Aug 2013 #100

An observation and two questions: MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #105

I agree with you. That said, reality and spin are often on different planes. MADem Aug 2013 #109

The Republicans would argue that Democrats pulled things had never done before... Hippo_Tron Aug 2013 #158

Agreed. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #159

as long as he got rid of all those old Goldman Sachs Wall Street insider types - as long as he made Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #82

It's a long shot. I hope we keep the damn Senate, because we don't come out on the off years as MADem Aug 2013 #90

That's B.S. nolabels Aug 2013 #63

Reading is fundamental. MADem Aug 2013 #75

Yes you should of read then, and i was attempting to be indicative of...... nolabels Aug 2013 #185

I agree that there are no quick fixes....but Confucius taught us that the journey of a thousand mile MADem Aug 2013 #186

When i take on something that is hard to win at i try take notes for the next attempt. nolabels Aug 2013 #187

but, it's so much easier to get on the internetz and Cha Aug 2013 #67

Matt Damon? BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #78

what bull bigtree Aug 2013 #80

I Guess This Is Not Real - www.dlc.org cantbeserious Aug 2013 #88

the 'third way' meme is a joke bigtree Aug 2013 #91

How Readily You Criticize And Dismiss - Very Telling cantbeserious Aug 2013 #93

this is an old and boring DU deflection bigtree Aug 2013 #101

As Is The Ready Dismissal Of Facts - www.dlc.org - Which You Appear To Have Mastered cantbeserious Aug 2013 #104

fact bigtree Aug 2013 #107

Ah - That Some Are Too Ignorant To Understand Our Government Argument - Heard It Before cantbeserious Aug 2013 #110

hmm? oh, meh. bigtree Aug 2013 #115

The Feeling Is Mutual cantbeserious Aug 2013 #116

To say nothing of the fact that all that "Third Way" stuff is packed in boxes, MADem Aug 2013 #138

you must have enjoyed a substance-filled night DrDan Aug 2013 #83

President Obama, already one of the best Presidents ever. ProSense Aug 2013 #95

After Citizens United, we don't stand a chance n2doc Aug 2013 #96

Replace the DLCers in Democratic "packed" by Republican redistricted districts with progressives! cascadiance Aug 2013 #97

Mr. David has been escorted from the building....again. MineralMan Aug 2013 #108

Oh, the ProSense Aug 2013 #112

Next screen name: Mr. Boomerang? MineralMan Aug 2013 #114

Newly opened transparency page Turborama Aug 2013 #113

a good ol' purge of the bad Obama supporters in, of all places, the Democratic Party arely staircase Aug 2013 #117

"the Senate is safe for 2014"? brooklynite Aug 2013 #123

Buh bye again, troll... SidDithers Aug 2013 #125

Gotta Love EARLG!!!!! MADem Aug 2013 #131

That was awesome... SidDithers Aug 2013 #146

Deliberately cede the centre to the Republicans? Are you insane? Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #133

the Democratic Party's lurch rightward has alienated a lot of their own party. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #136

The person you're addressing is mercifully choking on a pizza. MADem Aug 2013 #137

And yet Andy823 Aug 2013 #139

they aren't gullible arely staircase Aug 2013 #140

It's not gullibility, I think. MineralMan Aug 2013 #143

That's a very good question indeed. After all, I was taught that people MADem Aug 2013 #144

He's dead Jim. DevonRex Aug 2013 #163

It's worse than that. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #175

EarlG took care of this TROLL. Thank you, EarlG. DevonRex Aug 2013 #147

The Rethugs have become a far right fringe party... roamer65 Aug 2013 #151

I hope the dearly departed troll is still reading this thread. ProSense Aug 2013 #160

Amazinig how these posters get busted. Mr Troll should Cha Aug 2013 #170

What are the other Names the OP has come under before ? JI7 Aug 2013 #167

This isn't the first troll that's had a lot of RAH RAHs from Cha Aug 2013 #171

I can't stress this enough. - Presidents do NOT run the USA ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #173

If no one tries nothing changes Fearless Aug 2013 #177

I agree totally. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #190

42 recs from the usual suspects for a PPR'd troll. You Better Believe It! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #188

Yup. BBI has many progeny scurrying about. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #191

And craploads of the gullible to rec posts!!! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #192

Enjoy~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #198

Homage to a troll. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #206