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In reply to the discussion: Wyden's former deputy chief of staff doubts Clapper decided to lie unilaterally. [View all]Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)23. Everybody should read that entire article.
First thing, Congress needs to be un-muzzled, beginning with the dissenting members of the Intelligence Committees. DiFi needs to GO, as chairman of Senate Intel. She has one hell of a lot of nerve. Apparently she has kept an iron grip on the dissenters, preventing them from communicating much of anything to anybody.
Wyden's Communications Director wrote this:
"...during my tenure in Wyden's office, I probably spent in upwards of 1,000 hours trying to help my boss raise concerns about programs that he couldn't even tell me about. (italics in original)
He is barred from telling his own staff what his concerns are, whose job it is to communicate with the public; he is likewise barred from telling his colleagues in the Senate what his concerns are... meaning not only is there zero debate -- he can't even bring the subject up in the Senate, on the floor or privately. This is preposterous!
And yet Obama had the colossal nerve to actually say this:
"What makes us different from other countries is not simply our ability to secure our nation," Obama said. "It's the way we do it, with open debate and democratic process."
What absolute BULLSHIT, Mister President! How dare you! If he tried all day to do it on purpose, he couldn't have come up with something more offensive to say!
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Wyden's former deputy chief of staff doubts Clapper decided to lie unilaterally. [View all]
dkf
Aug 2013
OP
Of all those involved in running the programs, Clapper may be among the most conscientious
leveymg
Aug 2013
#1
No, I think Clapper consulted with others before his testimony, including the WH.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#4
Easy. Just ask NSA for his phone records from the previous day. I'm sure they'll oblige the Comm.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#19
If he had integrity, he would not have lied to Congress. He could have stated that he was
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#27
Unfortunately, most of the top people in intel are old Bush people, or Reagan people
leveymg
Aug 2013
#30
Sorry, we have two parties and to say there are no Democrats who are capable of
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#31
I don't doubt your story. But it doesn't mean there are no Democrats who actually are
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#49
What if he is told the "patriotic" thing to do is to lie? If he was evasive that was a tip off.
dkf
Aug 2013
#35
Yes this is the new version of honor where you are a patriot by covering up violations....
dkf
Aug 2013
#56
Wait wut? I've been reliably informed here that Clapper never lied!111!!!!1
riderinthestorm
Aug 2013
#2
Clapper never would have had to like if not for Snowden. It is all Snowden's fault.
BlueStreak
Aug 2013
#11
It Is Never Too Late For Impeachment Proceedings With A Sitting President
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#14
Only Congress Can Decide If Impeachment Is Warranted Based On The Lies Told By The Administration
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#26
What lies? You can at least specify why Congress would entertain this decision. n/t
ProSense
Aug 2013
#28
Senator Ron Wyden's Revelations Regarding Obama Obfuscation On Illegal Domestic Surverillance
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#29
Yes - And Let's Add Transparent Hope And Change - A Sad State Of Affairs All Around
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#13
It is shocking -- When Obama met his moment of truth when clever speechwriting wouldn't get him by
BlueStreak
Aug 2013
#32
This is an important detail "Wyden shared his question with the ODNI the day before"
Coyotl
Aug 2013
#20
I bet he was aware that over two years had passed and nobody had lifted a damn finger
BlueStreak
Aug 2013
#45
That absolutely needs to end. The practice of having only a few Reps know what this
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#33
It's easier to control just a few people who are in the know, than the full Congress.
Waiting For Everyman
Aug 2013
#42
Moreover look what difi's instructions were to Wyden's staff on what they were allowed to say...
dkf
Aug 2013
#37
DiFi works for the MIC and there is proof if ever we needed it. She gagged members of
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#50