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46. This is a great article. nt

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Wyden's former deputy chief of staff doubts Clapper decided to lie unilaterally. [View all] dkf Aug 2013 OP

Of all those involved in running the programs, Clapper may be among the most conscientious leveymg Aug 2013 #1

And do you believe he concocted it on his own? dkf Aug 2013 #3

No, I think Clapper consulted with others before his testimony, including the WH. leveymg Aug 2013 #4

I wonder if anyone will ask him under oath. dkf Aug 2013 #5

Easy. Just ask NSA for his phone records from the previous day. I'm sure they'll oblige the Comm. leveymg Aug 2013 #19

If he had integrity, he would not have lied to Congress. He could have stated that he was sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #27

Unfortunately, most of the top people in intel are old Bush people, or Reagan people leveymg Aug 2013 #30

Sorry, we have two parties and to say there are no Democrats who are capable of sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #31

I have a little inside baseball story to share will you. leveymg Aug 2013 #34

I don't doubt your story. But it doesn't mean there are no Democrats who actually are sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #49

What if he is told the "patriotic" thing to do is to lie? If he was evasive that was a tip off. dkf Aug 2013 #35

Honor .... sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #51

Yes this is the new version of honor where you are a patriot by covering up violations.... dkf Aug 2013 #56

Wait wut? I've been reliably informed here that Clapper never lied!111!!!!1 riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #2

Clapper never would have had to like if not for Snowden. It is all Snowden's fault. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #11

K&R Good article. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #6

Direct quote from Senator Wyden ProSense Aug 2013 #7

The bigger question is if he was instructed to lie and if so by whom. dkf Aug 2013 #8

LOL! Yeah, I see where this is going. ProSense Aug 2013 #9

It Is Never Too Late For Impeachment Proceedings With A Sitting President cantbeserious Aug 2013 #14

Are you calling for Obama's impeachment? ProSense Aug 2013 #16

Congress Must Decide If The Lies Merit Impeachment cantbeserious Aug 2013 #18

What lies? I asked if you support impeachment. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #21

Only Congress Can Decide If Impeachment Is Warranted Based On The Lies Told By The Administration cantbeserious Aug 2013 #26

What lies? You can at least specify why Congress would entertain this decision. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #28

Senator Ron Wyden's Revelations Regarding Obama Obfuscation On Illegal Domestic Surverillance cantbeserious Aug 2013 #29

You have a link to Wyden accusing the President of lying? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #39

I am starting to hate this administration almost as much as Cheney's BlueStreak Aug 2013 #10

He's like an atheist who has a lot of knowledge about the Bible. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #12

Hey, I resemble that remark! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #15

LOL! LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #17

That is a very apt analogy. nt Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #25

Yes - And Let's Add Transparent Hope And Change - A Sad State Of Affairs All Around cantbeserious Aug 2013 #13

It is shocking -- When Obama met his moment of truth when clever speechwriting wouldn't get him by BlueStreak Aug 2013 #32

"Constitutional scholar, my ass." ProSense Aug 2013 #22

What does that have to do with anything? nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #47

This is an important detail "Wyden shared his question with the ODNI the day before" Coyotl Aug 2013 #20

This is exactly the issue. Wyden lays it out perfectly -- IN MAY, 2011 BlueStreak Aug 2013 #38

I'l bet Snowden was aware of what Wyden was trying to do also. dkf Aug 2013 #43

I bet he was aware that over two years had passed and nobody had lifted a damn finger BlueStreak Aug 2013 #45

Everybody should read that entire article. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #23

That absolutely needs to end. The practice of having only a few Reps know what this sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #33

You are exactly right. And yet there are folks here who see Snowden snappyturtle Aug 2013 #40

It's easier to control just a few people who are in the know, than the full Congress. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #42

Moreover look what difi's instructions were to Wyden's staff on what they were allowed to say... dkf Aug 2013 #37

DiFi is emerging as one of the major villains in this. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #44

We are kidding ourselves if we think we will get anything new. dkf Aug 2013 #52

DiFi works for the MIC and there is proof if ever we needed it. She gagged members of sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #50

It's a good read. Also she explains why Wyden can't expose what he knows KoKo Aug 2013 #24

None dare call it... multilateral lying! reformist2 Aug 2013 #36

Thanks for posting this AppleBottom Aug 2013 #41

This is a great article. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #46

If anyone needs documentation of the admins response... dkf Aug 2013 #53

All parsed & planned in advance, of course. n/t DirkGently Aug 2013 #48

No, really DJ13 Aug 2013 #54

K&R! blackspade Aug 2013 #55

I believe Clapper was more or less ordered to lie. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #57