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In reply to the discussion: We droned the shit out of Yemen. No one talks about it here. But everyone's talking bout it in Yemen [View all]WillyT
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July 31, 2013
Dear President Obama and President Hadi
My name is Faisal bin Ali Jaber. I am a Yemeni engineer from Hadramout, employed by Yemen's equivalent of the Environmental Protection Agency. I am writing today because I read in the news that you will be meeting in the White House on Thursday, August 1, to discuss the "counter-terrorism partnership" between the US and Yemen.
My family has personally experienced this partnership. A year ago this August, a drone strike in my ancestral village killed my brother-in-law, Salem bin Ali Jaber, and my twenty-one-year-old nephew, Waleed.
President Obama, you said in a recent speech that the United States is "at war with an organisation that right now would kill as many Americans as they could if we did not stop them first." This war against al-Qa'ida, you added, "is a just war - a war waged proportionally, in last resort, and in self-defense."
President Hadi, on a trip to the United States last September, you claimed that "every operation , before taking place, permission from the president." You also asserted that "the drone technologically is more advanced than the human brain".
Why, then, last August, did you both send drones to attack my innocent brother-in-law and nephew? Our family are not your enemy. In fact, the people you killed had strongly and publicly opposed al-Qa'ida. Salem was an imam. The Friday before his death, he gave a guest sermon in the Khashamir mosque denouncing al-Qa'ida's hateful ideology. It was not the first of these sermons, but regrettably, it was his last.
In months of grieving, my family have received no acknowledgement or apology from the U.S. or Yemen. We've struggled to square our tragedy with the words in your speeches.
How was this "self-defense"? My family worried that militants would target Salem for his sermons. We never anticipated his death would come from above, at the hands of the United States. In his death you lost a potential ally in fact, because word of the killing spread immediately through the region, I fear you have lost thousands.
How was this "in last resort"? Our town was no battlefield. We had no warning our local police were never asked to make any arrest. My young nephew Waleed was a policeman, before the strike cut short his life.
How was this "proportionate"? The strike devastated our community. The day before the strike, Khashamir buzzed with celebrations for my eldest son's wedding. Our wedding videos show Salem and young Waleed in a crowd of dancing revellers, joining the celebration. Traditionally, this revelry would have gone on for days but for the attack. Afterwards, it was days before I could persuade my eldest daughter to leave the house, such was her terror of fire from the skies.
The strike left a stark lesson in its wake not just in my village, but across Hadramout and wider Yemen. The lesson, I am afraid, is that neither the current U.S. or Yemeni administrations bother to distinguish friend from foe. In speech after speech after the attack, community leaders stood and said: if Salem was not safe, none of us are.
Your silence in the face of these injustices only makes matters worse. If the strike was a mistake, the family like all wrongly bereaved families of this secret air war deserve a formal apology.
To this day I wish no vengeance against the United States or Yemeni governments. But not everyone in Yemen feels the same. Every dead innocent swells the ranks of those you are fighting.
All Yemen has begun to take notice of drones and they object. Only this month, Yemen's National Dialogue Conference, a quasi-Constitutional Convention which I understand the U.S. underwrites, almost unanimously voted to prohibit the unregulated use of drones in our country.
With respect, you cannot continue to behave as if innocent deaths like those in my family are irrelevant. If the Yemeni and American Presidents refuse to engage with overwhelming popular sentiment in Yemen, you will defeat your own counter-terrorism aims.
Thank you for your consideration. I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
Yours Sincerely,
Faisal bin Ali Jaber
Sana'a, Yemen
Dear President Obama and President Hadi
My name is Faisal bin Ali Jaber. I am a Yemeni engineer from Hadramout, employed by Yemen's equivalent of the Environmental Protection Agency. I am writing today because I read in the news that you will be meeting in the White House on Thursday, August 1, to discuss the "counter-terrorism partnership" between the US and Yemen.
My family has personally experienced this partnership. A year ago this August, a drone strike in my ancestral village killed my brother-in-law, Salem bin Ali Jaber, and my twenty-one-year-old nephew, Waleed.
President Obama, you said in a recent speech that the United States is "at war with an organisation that right now would kill as many Americans as they could if we did not stop them first." This war against al-Qa'ida, you added, "is a just war - a war waged proportionally, in last resort, and in self-defense."
President Hadi, on a trip to the United States last September, you claimed that "every operation , before taking place, permission from the president." You also asserted that "the drone technologically is more advanced than the human brain".
Why, then, last August, did you both send drones to attack my innocent brother-in-law and nephew? Our family are not your enemy. In fact, the people you killed had strongly and publicly opposed al-Qa'ida. Salem was an imam. The Friday before his death, he gave a guest sermon in the Khashamir mosque denouncing al-Qa'ida's hateful ideology. It was not the first of these sermons, but regrettably, it was his last.
In months of grieving, my family have received no acknowledgement or apology from the U.S. or Yemen. We've struggled to square our tragedy with the words in your speeches.
How was this "self-defense"? My family worried that militants would target Salem for his sermons. We never anticipated his death would come from above, at the hands of the United States. In his death you lost a potential ally in fact, because word of the killing spread immediately through the region, I fear you have lost thousands.
How was this "in last resort"? Our town was no battlefield. We had no warning our local police were never asked to make any arrest. My young nephew Waleed was a policeman, before the strike cut short his life.
How was this "proportionate"? The strike devastated our community. The day before the strike, Khashamir buzzed with celebrations for my eldest son's wedding. Our wedding videos show Salem and young Waleed in a crowd of dancing revellers, joining the celebration. Traditionally, this revelry would have gone on for days but for the attack. Afterwards, it was days before I could persuade my eldest daughter to leave the house, such was her terror of fire from the skies.
The strike left a stark lesson in its wake not just in my village, but across Hadramout and wider Yemen. The lesson, I am afraid, is that neither the current U.S. or Yemeni administrations bother to distinguish friend from foe. In speech after speech after the attack, community leaders stood and said: if Salem was not safe, none of us are.
Your silence in the face of these injustices only makes matters worse. If the strike was a mistake, the family like all wrongly bereaved families of this secret air war deserve a formal apology.
To this day I wish no vengeance against the United States or Yemeni governments. But not everyone in Yemen feels the same. Every dead innocent swells the ranks of those you are fighting.
All Yemen has begun to take notice of drones and they object. Only this month, Yemen's National Dialogue Conference, a quasi-Constitutional Convention which I understand the U.S. underwrites, almost unanimously voted to prohibit the unregulated use of drones in our country.
With respect, you cannot continue to behave as if innocent deaths like those in my family are irrelevant. If the Yemeni and American Presidents refuse to engage with overwhelming popular sentiment in Yemen, you will defeat your own counter-terrorism aims.
Thank you for your consideration. I would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.
Yours Sincerely,
Faisal bin Ali Jaber
Sana'a, Yemen
Link: http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/americas/6770-letter-to-obama-and-hadi-on-yemeni-drones
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We droned the shit out of Yemen. No one talks about it here. But everyone's talking bout it in Yemen [View all]
Catherina
Aug 2013
OP
So the existing Yemeni politicians can wipe out any competitors by reporting them as suspects?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#1
When The Rest of The World Gets Drone technology your question may no longer be a hypothetical
BlueManFan
Aug 2013
#64
It does not sound like you have considered the "bounty" aspect of all this.
truedelphi
Aug 2013
#101
yep--self perpetuating war on terror machine. So sick and everyone wants to ignore it.
NoMoreWarNow
Aug 2013
#85
And the violent response to our violence becomes excuses for continued spying, surveillance, and..
paparush
Aug 2013
#48
"Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet...
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#9
I`m going to quickly express my disgust about these drone strikes and leave before
democrank
Aug 2013
#10
I suspect if we talked about it the conversation would grow uncomfortable quick
TheKentuckian
Aug 2013
#32
and now like with the surveillance state - such a policy is legitimized by bipartisan consensus
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#39
Another policy that makes you think, "How could this do anything but more harm than good" n/t
Taitertots
Aug 2013
#42
Most Americans Don't Know That In 1918-1919 The US Landed American Troops In Russia
BlueManFan
Aug 2013
#46
But It's Great For Business and remember, "corporations are people too my friend."
BlueManFan
Aug 2013
#55
Check. Check.... But I don't think we know how many Booz Allen's there are out there
BlueManFan
Aug 2013
#58
Nuff said indeed. US Empire is a lucre-addicted-bitch living beyond her means.
99th_Monkey
Aug 2013
#60
You know when Bush was president we cared about how much damage he was doing to our
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#59
Haven't you heard? Al Qaeda has been "decimated". This recruitment effort is expensive ...
Scuba
Aug 2013
#62
The last sentence says it all, it is the truth. 'The lives of Twenty Million Yemenis are
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#66
Yeah, I had a post hidden, like a common troll, for daring to post bloodless IMAGES of our handywork
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#67
This is Obama's Bush-Lite Doctrine. Obama has embraced Bush's pre-emptive war
morningfog
Aug 2013
#77
I have been on the FAA "no fly list" since 12/2001 due to a terrorist from Yemen using my very
Dustlawyer
Aug 2013
#93
It's insanity on both sides. Why not address the cause instead of just bombing.
Gregorian
Aug 2013
#96