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cthulu2016

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Mon Aug 12, 2013, 01:21 AM Aug 2013

Your Social Security number contains no Personal Information [View all]

Last edited Mon Aug 12, 2013, 12:01 PM - Edit history (2)

It is just a bunch of numbers without your name, address... anything to tie it to you.

The only real information in it is where it was issued (the first three digits are an area number). The rest just tell where in the Social Security filing system the number goes. (They used file cabinets back when the system started which affected the number system. That's why each area code is divided into up to 100 sub-codes in the two-digit part of the number. 323-71 would be one drawer or cabinet.)

And since your SSN contains no personal information you might as well just give it to anyone who asks.

Heck, why not?

To learn anything about you from your Social Security number someone would have to look it up or run it through a database, like a credit reporting agency or government benefits database or... well, actually any database in the world that includes social security numbers.

But nobody would ever do that.


Edit: This OP is ironic, not literal—of course you shouldn't give your SSN to everyone. It arose from a discussion of whether the NSA collecting phone records is collecting 'personal information.' Some would say that a unique identifier one can use to easily discover personal information is personal information, and SS numbers make that point well. They are very personal information, and we all know that, but one could say that a pile of collected social security numbers *contains* no personal information and be literally correct in a slippery way.
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and since it's government issued usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #1
Or to your medical records. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #20
Fine. evlbstrd Aug 2013 #2
Thanks for the reassurance! MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #3
That scam actually isn't about stealing personal info like SSNs. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #6
If you need to give them a number LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #34
But I have to help the family of deceased Nigerian President/Head of State Sanni Abacha! NuclearDem Aug 2013 #38
Well if someone is running your name its usually the SS Death Index... Historic NY Aug 2013 #4
More people have my Social Security number than have my phone number. Downwinder Aug 2013 #5
. Egnever Aug 2013 #9
Wrong pipoman Aug 2013 #7
Wouldn't they need a name other than JohnnyRingo? JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #12
If I were inclined to spend $50, I absolutely pipoman Aug 2013 #19
The argument is ironic, not literal cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #25
I've had my ID borrowed JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #37
I think this is going over many peoples heads. Egnever Aug 2013 #8
Yep, right over. Whoosh!! kath Aug 2013 #11
And there are places which pipoman Aug 2013 #23
Your Social Security FILE contains your job history.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author dothemath Aug 2013 #14
And whose name do you think would pop up for SSN: 666-66-6666? DeSwiss Aug 2013 #13
Mine? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #15
Dick Cheney? bluedigger Aug 2013 #18
Sadly, it's not a valid SSN Recursion Aug 2013 #24
Pat Robertson, of course. LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #35
My Swedish "Personnummer" California Expat Aug 2013 #16
In my job customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #17
That's a really dumb argument jeff47 Aug 2013 #21
Well, yeah, if I could post it fully anonymously it wouldn't matter at all Recursion Aug 2013 #22
Only because nobody is inclined to spend money pipoman Aug 2013 #26
So what stops them from exploiting numbers they just make up? Recursion Aug 2013 #27
You don't have to pipoman Aug 2013 #32
Right, but just a number, with no ties to me, is the same thing as a number generator Recursion Aug 2013 #33
false! the first 3 numbers represent a geographical area. unblock Aug 2013 #28
Ahem... (the OP says that) cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #29
yes, but without the part about it possibly indicating your birth state or residence zip code area. unblock Aug 2013 #30
the area code is only where the SSN was issued cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #31
it's not foolproof, and it's vague, but it is personal information. unblock Aug 2013 #36
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