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In reply to the discussion: Snowden's Dad: If Edward Would Have Stayed In the USA: "He would have been buried under the capital" [View all]ljm2002
(10,751 posts)17. Thanks very much...
...very informative. From the link:
Instead, a separate law, the Intelligence Community Whistle-blower Protection Act, applies to people who held positions such as the one Snowden did as a contractor for the National Security Agency. Legal experts say, however, that it provides no protection to him for two reasons.
First, they say, he did not expose the kinds of actions covered by whistle-blower protections illegal conduct, fraud, waste or abuse. Some people have argued that the programs revealed by Snowden are illegal or unconstitutional. For now, they are presumptively legal, given the assent of members of Congress and the special court known as FISA that oversees intelligence operations.
But suppose Snowdens supporters are right, and what he exposed was illegal conduct after all.
Then he would face a second problem: The Federal Whistle-blower Protection Act protects the public disclosure of a violation of any law, rule, or regulation only if such disclosure is not specifically prohibited by law. In other words, Snowden could claim whistle-blower protection only if he took his concerns to the NSAs inspector general or to a member of one of the congressional intelligence committees with the proper security clearances.
So according to the article, what Snowden chose to reveal would not fall under the cited legal protection, because he did not reveal "illegal conduct, fraud, waste or abuse". In other words, although he believed the NSA practices to be illegal / unconstitutional, they would not be deemed such because they are "presumptively legal". So he could have gone to Congress -- to the same Senators who have vigorously supported these activities -- and, even if they had given him any credence at all, even if they had not had him arrested on the spot -- his revelations would never have seen the light of day.
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Snowden's Dad: If Edward Would Have Stayed In the USA: "He would have been buried under the capital" [View all]
kpete
Aug 2013
OP
Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#60
He wouldn't have been protected because he didn't bother to become a whistleblower.
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#2
2005 is irrelevant, ant the Tamm case is irrelevant because the programs themselves had not
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#61
And here is why I object to the surveillance programs no matter who runs them
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#119
It does protect contractors. What it does not protect is release to the public--Snowden would have
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#13
Even if it is procured illegally by th egovernment? Even if it runs afoul of the 4th Amendment?
RC
Aug 2013
#103
Yes, he should have done what Drake and Binney did. Drake followed the rules to the last letter and
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#37
Doesn't Greenwald also have a financial interest in the movie that filmmaker is crafting? nt
MADem
Aug 2013
#31
Well, he could have disclosed under the Intelligence Community Whistleblowers Protection Act of 1998
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#14
Some secrets should be secret. Reasonable people can disagree about what those secrets are, but
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#22
Of course, history clearly shows how our government feels about whistleblowers. n/t
1awake
Aug 2013
#32
Like Drake did? How did that work for him?? Drake 'disclosed under the ICWP Act of 1998
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#41
How about Drake and Binney? They did everything according to the book and were destroyed
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#43
And this is why we need to encourage aggressive use of the ignore function.
backscatter712
Aug 2013
#72
It's Communist in name only. Actually it has the second largest capitalist
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#65
I did not deny that they have a Communist party. What I am saying is that they
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#126
If Edward had performed on his job and had nit stolen files and revealed information
Thinkingabout
Aug 2013
#130