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MADem

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28. He could have gone to his favorite Senator, Rand Paul...

Reply to ljm2002 (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 11:35 AM

Aug 2013

who sits on the INTEL OVERSIGHT subcommittee and could have gotten the guy an opportunity to testify, if that's what it took, without too much difficulty at all simply by putting him on the agenda. If ES was going to talk about classified programs, sources and methods, it might be in the context of a closed meeting, but make no mistake, he would be heard.

That would have been the sensible thing to have done. He would have gotten plenty of "credence" and his revelations would have gotten a hearing.

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Snowden's Dad: If Edward Would Have Stayed In the USA: "He would have been buried under the capital" [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

He wouldn't have gotten whistleblower status, obviously Recursion Aug 2013 #1

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #60

You're kind of a one trick pony, aren't you? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #136

"Legal"? Only in that it was written down and passed by a legislature Demeter Aug 2013 #73

Yes, "written down and passed by a legislature" describes "laws" Recursion Aug 2013 #77

Unconstitutional trumps legal Demeter Aug 2013 #93

I'm going to have to copy this post. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #94

Justice Roberts ssems to be in control of most things Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #127

It's been noted--hence, he's not an independent judge Demeter Aug 2013 #128

The program's legality is obviously in dispute blackspade Aug 2013 #100

He wouldn't have been protected because he didn't bother to become a whistleblower. msanthrope Aug 2013 #2

Thomas Drake and others have used that act MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #8

"How'd that work out for them?" ProSense Aug 2013 #12

2005 is irrelevant, ant the Tamm case is irrelevant because the programs themselves had not JDPriestly Aug 2013 #61

What? ProSense Aug 2013 #67

And here is why I object to the surveillance programs no matter who runs them JDPriestly Aug 2013 #119

Does the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #9

It does protect contractors. What it does not protect is release to the public--Snowden would have msanthrope Aug 2013 #13

Thanks very much... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #17

He could have gone to his favorite Senator, Rand Paul... MADem Aug 2013 #28

Yes, he could have done that... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #33

Why would it have to become public? MADem Aug 2013 #48

Why should what become public? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #64

You were the one who said MADem Aug 2013 #68

Yes, I said that... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #78

You brought up the public issue, not me. Yawn, indeed. nt MADem Aug 2013 #82

So you seem to be of the opinion... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #84

I seem to be of the opinion that classified material should not be shared MADem Aug 2013 #88

Okay, I understand that position... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #96

And how does congress provide oversight christx30 Aug 2013 #114

Even if it is procured illegally by th egovernment? Even if it runs afoul of the 4th Amendment? RC Aug 2013 #103

Yes, he should have done what Drake and Binney did. Drake followed the rules to the last letter and sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #37

And that is the problem with some kinds of government. Igel Aug 2013 #49

Greenwald did him a disservice BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #3

And you know this how? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #10

If you have "factual info" refuting what I wrote BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #15

I said nothing at all about... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #23

My remark underscores the hyperbole BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #42

In other words... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #44

In other words, it all flew over your head. Whoosh! nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #51

No, I asked you to support your assertion... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #69

Anything to do with FOREIGN spying BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #83

You are still evading the issue... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #86

You have evaded the facts. No help for you. Cry me a river. BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #89

No, I have questioned one statement you made... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #97

Dude, put the Snowden-basher-bots on ignore. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #90

I understand many are not persuadable on these issues... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #98

+1 blackspade Aug 2013 #107

Doesn't Greenwald also have a financial interest in the movie that filmmaker is crafting? nt MADem Aug 2013 #31

Good, I can't wait to read it. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #38

"Greenwald already plans to publish his NSA book in March 2014" ROFL!!! Number23 Aug 2013 #131

He went to the Washington post first..nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #75

What I meant by my remark... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #81

Proof that Rand Paul style libertarianism destroys minds. tridim Aug 2013 #4

wow, kpete Aug 2013 #5

I stopped reading at "..buried under the Capital"... tridim Aug 2013 #7

Where ABC seems to miss the difference between "Capital" and "Capitol" BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #19

Keep reading. You'll sound less uninformed leftstreet Aug 2013 #40

It's a pun that can't be written. Igel Aug 2013 #56

I would argue that the Congressional building is the most blackspade Aug 2013 #108

Snowden's dad comes across as marions ghost Aug 2013 #18

Not really--found his Fox interviews to be on the verge of loony. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #24

Check out this one --Lon with Steph-- marions ghost Aug 2013 #50

Do you believe Alex Jones and Rand paul "come across as intelligent"? tridim Aug 2013 #25

Sorry but-- marions ghost Aug 2013 #55

How many total minutes have you heard Eddie and Father speak? tridim Aug 2013 #111

Other input and research goes into it marions ghost Aug 2013 #116

The nut didn't fall far from the tree, did it? ucrdem Aug 2013 #35

Excellent! Thank you. Bookmarking. The interview explains very simply snappyturtle Aug 2013 #6

Apparently and sad to see- kpete Aug 2013 #11

Scheiffer is the living example of bias. I had to quit watching him snappyturtle Aug 2013 #34

Don't forget Cheney and Ari Fleischer and Peter King! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #39

Well, he could have disclosed under the Intelligence Community Whistleblowers Protection Act of 1998 msanthrope Aug 2013 #14

Which would have just kept it under wraps. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #16

Some secrets should be secret. Reasonable people can disagree about what those secrets are, but msanthrope Aug 2013 #22

"a dropout who is a coward"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #121

No real protections there marions ghost Aug 2013 #20

No...we all don't know that. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #21

Of course, history clearly shows how our government feels about whistleblowers. n/t 1awake Aug 2013 #32

Like Drake did? How did that work for him?? Drake 'disclosed under the ICWP Act of 1998 sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #41

That's a chance he should've taken. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #26

like this guy? kpete Aug 2013 #27

There's no violin tiny enough. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #30

How about Drake and Binney? They did everything according to the book and were destroyed sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #43

Yep marions ghost Aug 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #115

***FAIL*** - Same excuse many browns\blacks can give for US justice system uponit7771 Aug 2013 #29

+1 bravenak Aug 2013 #36

Fear-based speculation. He didn't TRY to be a whistleblower. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #45

A product of a proud American educational system. n/t Igel Aug 2013 #58

...an that is exactly the whole of it Sheepshank Aug 2013 #120

The propaganda is creepy beyond words. woo me with science Aug 2013 #46

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #52

Thank you. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #62

And this is why we need to encourage aggressive use of the ignore function. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #72

You're right the claim about being "buried" is "creepy beyond words." ProSense Aug 2013 #95

Yes and it is really creepy to see isn't it? nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #122

I like how some proudly say they didn't read it and then call them names. neverforget Aug 2013 #124

Yep. People with way too much time/concern on their hands wtmusic Aug 2013 #134

Plus one! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #135

Yeah, they would dig up the capital to bury him. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #47

What 'communist countries?' leftstreet Aug 2013 #53

I suppose you are going to tell me China is not Communist! liberal N proud Aug 2013 #59

LOL yes the Chinese worker is the vanguard of society leftstreet Aug 2013 #63

It's Communist in name only. Actually it has the second largest capitalist totodeinhere Aug 2013 #65

Do they oppress their citizens? liberal N proud Aug 2013 #66

That means they are authoritarian or totalitarian. blackspade Aug 2013 #112

All that is true but you called then Communist, not oppressors. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #118

China still has a very active Communist party. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #125

I did not deny that they have a Communist party. What I am saying is that they totodeinhere Aug 2013 #126

LOL liberal N proud Aug 2013 #129

Communism: liberal N proud Aug 2013 #137

Communism in a form of capitalism blackspade Aug 2013 #110

Russia's not Communist--at least not anymore. Arkana Aug 2013 #71

This is fucking hilarious liberal N proud Aug 2013 #113

Seems,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #54

Love the three commas HangOnKids Aug 2013 #76

Talk about your fucking hyperbole. Arkana Aug 2013 #70

"Hyperbole" and irony ProSense Aug 2013 #79

And this sad affair BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #99

Nope.. and this is the kind of thing that makes me lose faith Peacetrain Aug 2013 #74

Really 'Dad'? SCVDem Aug 2013 #80

What a bunch of horseshit shawn703 Aug 2013 #85

He's right. The American people woule never have known LittleBlue Aug 2013 #87

+1000000 This is the truth and the relevant point. woo me with science Aug 2013 #123

Democrats Would Have Buried Snowden - My How Far We Have Sunk cantbeserious Aug 2013 #91

Hyperbolic lame excuse to avoid a trial. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #92

I can see where the kid got his brains. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #101

ROFLMAO! SoapBox Aug 2013 #102

Squirrels kpete Aug 2013 #104

So Senator Sanders would have betrayed him, too? pnwmom Aug 2013 #105

Too few marions ghost Aug 2013 #117

It's amazing isn't it Andy823 Aug 2013 #132

Of course it's because pnwmom Aug 2013 #133

Snowden's Dad should be ashamed. He raised a buffoon. And a Russian Spy. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #106

that would be a good trick to bury someone under the capital... madrchsod Aug 2013 #109

If Edward had performed on his job and had nit stolen files and revealed information Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #130