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ljm2002

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86. You are still evading the issue...

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 01:10 PM

Aug 2013

...and failing to support your assertion: "Greenwald did him a disservice by encouraging him to non-selectively report info".

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Snowden's Dad: If Edward Would Have Stayed In the USA: "He would have been buried under the capital" [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

He wouldn't have gotten whistleblower status, obviously Recursion Aug 2013 #1

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #60

You're kind of a one trick pony, aren't you? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #136

"Legal"? Only in that it was written down and passed by a legislature Demeter Aug 2013 #73

Yes, "written down and passed by a legislature" describes "laws" Recursion Aug 2013 #77

Unconstitutional trumps legal Demeter Aug 2013 #93

I'm going to have to copy this post. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #94

Justice Roberts ssems to be in control of most things Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #127

It's been noted--hence, he's not an independent judge Demeter Aug 2013 #128

The program's legality is obviously in dispute blackspade Aug 2013 #100

He wouldn't have been protected because he didn't bother to become a whistleblower. msanthrope Aug 2013 #2

Thomas Drake and others have used that act MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #8

"How'd that work out for them?" ProSense Aug 2013 #12

2005 is irrelevant, ant the Tamm case is irrelevant because the programs themselves had not JDPriestly Aug 2013 #61

What? ProSense Aug 2013 #67

And here is why I object to the surveillance programs no matter who runs them JDPriestly Aug 2013 #119

Does the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #9

It does protect contractors. What it does not protect is release to the public--Snowden would have msanthrope Aug 2013 #13

Thanks very much... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #17

He could have gone to his favorite Senator, Rand Paul... MADem Aug 2013 #28

Yes, he could have done that... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #33

Why would it have to become public? MADem Aug 2013 #48

Why should what become public? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #64

You were the one who said MADem Aug 2013 #68

Yes, I said that... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #78

You brought up the public issue, not me. Yawn, indeed. nt MADem Aug 2013 #82

So you seem to be of the opinion... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #84

I seem to be of the opinion that classified material should not be shared MADem Aug 2013 #88

Okay, I understand that position... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #96

And how does congress provide oversight christx30 Aug 2013 #114

Even if it is procured illegally by th egovernment? Even if it runs afoul of the 4th Amendment? RC Aug 2013 #103

Yes, he should have done what Drake and Binney did. Drake followed the rules to the last letter and sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #37

And that is the problem with some kinds of government. Igel Aug 2013 #49

Greenwald did him a disservice BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #3

And you know this how? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #10

If you have "factual info" refuting what I wrote BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #15

I said nothing at all about... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #23

My remark underscores the hyperbole BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #42

In other words... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #44

In other words, it all flew over your head. Whoosh! nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #51

No, I asked you to support your assertion... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #69

Anything to do with FOREIGN spying BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #83

You are still evading the issue... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #86

You have evaded the facts. No help for you. Cry me a river. BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #89

No, I have questioned one statement you made... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #97

Dude, put the Snowden-basher-bots on ignore. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #90

I understand many are not persuadable on these issues... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #98

+1 blackspade Aug 2013 #107

Doesn't Greenwald also have a financial interest in the movie that filmmaker is crafting? nt MADem Aug 2013 #31

Good, I can't wait to read it. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #38

"Greenwald already plans to publish his NSA book in March 2014" ROFL!!! Number23 Aug 2013 #131

He went to the Washington post first..nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #75

What I meant by my remark... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #81

Proof that Rand Paul style libertarianism destroys minds. tridim Aug 2013 #4

wow, kpete Aug 2013 #5

I stopped reading at "..buried under the Capital"... tridim Aug 2013 #7

Where ABC seems to miss the difference between "Capital" and "Capitol" BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #19

Keep reading. You'll sound less uninformed leftstreet Aug 2013 #40

It's a pun that can't be written. Igel Aug 2013 #56

I would argue that the Congressional building is the most blackspade Aug 2013 #108

Snowden's dad comes across as marions ghost Aug 2013 #18

Not really--found his Fox interviews to be on the verge of loony. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #24

Check out this one --Lon with Steph-- marions ghost Aug 2013 #50

Do you believe Alex Jones and Rand paul "come across as intelligent"? tridim Aug 2013 #25

Sorry but-- marions ghost Aug 2013 #55

How many total minutes have you heard Eddie and Father speak? tridim Aug 2013 #111

Other input and research goes into it marions ghost Aug 2013 #116

The nut didn't fall far from the tree, did it? ucrdem Aug 2013 #35

Excellent! Thank you. Bookmarking. The interview explains very simply snappyturtle Aug 2013 #6

Apparently and sad to see- kpete Aug 2013 #11

Scheiffer is the living example of bias. I had to quit watching him snappyturtle Aug 2013 #34

Don't forget Cheney and Ari Fleischer and Peter King! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #39

Well, he could have disclosed under the Intelligence Community Whistleblowers Protection Act of 1998 msanthrope Aug 2013 #14

Which would have just kept it under wraps. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #16

Some secrets should be secret. Reasonable people can disagree about what those secrets are, but msanthrope Aug 2013 #22

"a dropout who is a coward"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #121

No real protections there marions ghost Aug 2013 #20

No...we all don't know that. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #21

Of course, history clearly shows how our government feels about whistleblowers. n/t 1awake Aug 2013 #32

Like Drake did? How did that work for him?? Drake 'disclosed under the ICWP Act of 1998 sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #41

That's a chance he should've taken. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #26

like this guy? kpete Aug 2013 #27

There's no violin tiny enough. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #30

How about Drake and Binney? They did everything according to the book and were destroyed sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #43

Yep marions ghost Aug 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #115

***FAIL*** - Same excuse many browns\blacks can give for US justice system uponit7771 Aug 2013 #29

+1 bravenak Aug 2013 #36

Fear-based speculation. He didn't TRY to be a whistleblower. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #45

A product of a proud American educational system. n/t Igel Aug 2013 #58

...an that is exactly the whole of it Sheepshank Aug 2013 #120

The propaganda is creepy beyond words. woo me with science Aug 2013 #46

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #52

Thank you. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #62

And this is why we need to encourage aggressive use of the ignore function. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #72

You're right the claim about being "buried" is "creepy beyond words." ProSense Aug 2013 #95

Yes and it is really creepy to see isn't it? nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #122

I like how some proudly say they didn't read it and then call them names. neverforget Aug 2013 #124

Yep. People with way too much time/concern on their hands wtmusic Aug 2013 #134

Plus one! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #135

Yeah, they would dig up the capital to bury him. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #47

What 'communist countries?' leftstreet Aug 2013 #53

I suppose you are going to tell me China is not Communist! liberal N proud Aug 2013 #59

LOL yes the Chinese worker is the vanguard of society leftstreet Aug 2013 #63

It's Communist in name only. Actually it has the second largest capitalist totodeinhere Aug 2013 #65

Do they oppress their citizens? liberal N proud Aug 2013 #66

That means they are authoritarian or totalitarian. blackspade Aug 2013 #112

All that is true but you called then Communist, not oppressors. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #118

China still has a very active Communist party. liberal N proud Aug 2013 #125

I did not deny that they have a Communist party. What I am saying is that they totodeinhere Aug 2013 #126

LOL liberal N proud Aug 2013 #129

Communism: liberal N proud Aug 2013 #137

Communism in a form of capitalism blackspade Aug 2013 #110

Russia's not Communist--at least not anymore. Arkana Aug 2013 #71

This is fucking hilarious liberal N proud Aug 2013 #113

Seems,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #54

Love the three commas HangOnKids Aug 2013 #76

Talk about your fucking hyperbole. Arkana Aug 2013 #70

"Hyperbole" and irony ProSense Aug 2013 #79

And this sad affair BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #99

Nope.. and this is the kind of thing that makes me lose faith Peacetrain Aug 2013 #74

Really 'Dad'? SCVDem Aug 2013 #80

What a bunch of horseshit shawn703 Aug 2013 #85

He's right. The American people woule never have known LittleBlue Aug 2013 #87

+1000000 This is the truth and the relevant point. woo me with science Aug 2013 #123

Democrats Would Have Buried Snowden - My How Far We Have Sunk cantbeserious Aug 2013 #91

Hyperbolic lame excuse to avoid a trial. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #92

I can see where the kid got his brains. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #101

ROFLMAO! SoapBox Aug 2013 #102

Squirrels kpete Aug 2013 #104

So Senator Sanders would have betrayed him, too? pnwmom Aug 2013 #105

Too few marions ghost Aug 2013 #117

It's amazing isn't it Andy823 Aug 2013 #132

Of course it's because pnwmom Aug 2013 #133

Snowden's Dad should be ashamed. He raised a buffoon. And a Russian Spy. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #106

that would be a good trick to bury someone under the capital... madrchsod Aug 2013 #109

If Edward had performed on his job and had nit stolen files and revealed information Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #130