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Aerows

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28. So you believe that people that lie
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:35 PM
Aug 2013

before Congress will be truthful to Al Franken? He's a member of Congress.

Does common sense tell you to believe the least untruthful answer on a regular basis, or do you just call it what everyone else does, a lie?

To Sen Franken: COULD it be used against the American people? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #1
And there in lays the problem. Little Star Aug 2013 #2
You COULD decide to hurt someone too. Aside from your good graces, what stops you? nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #15
for most of us its LAWS tk2kewl Aug 2013 #20
I think morality is the correct answer here, not laws. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #26
there are plenty of amoral people who would abuse the power given to them... so i think it's laws tk2kewl Aug 2013 #33
I really hope it's not just a law that is holding you back from hurting someone... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #32
not the point tk2kewl Aug 2013 #34
You made it. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #41
So if Pres Liz Cheney wants to use this info dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #89
Well I don't think we'll ever see a President Liz Cheney, so... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #91
So you won't even look at the misuse of this data dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #113
That's the problem... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #117
Well that's just priceless dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #118
It leads to what we've had forever... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #120
Big difference dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #122
Na'. You're just naive. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #124
Naive is equating what Hoover had to TIA dreamnightwind Aug 2013 #127
Sure they do. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #135
If I go to your mailbox while you are at work each Month and take out your phone bill, open it JDPriestly Aug 2013 #81
I don't really understand the comparison... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #84
what makes you that confident? frylock Aug 2013 #92
I really don't talk to many people. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #93
so what you meant to say is "it doesn't effect me, so fuck your concerns." frylock Aug 2013 #99
I'm sure it doesn't effect 99.9% of the country. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #103
i'm sure that you're incorrect with that assessment frylock Aug 2013 #107
This is information that we do not want the government to have. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #111
Great explanation even at this late hour...makes sense. It's as the 1% snappyturtle Aug 2013 #126
And what stops you from doing that? This is the key to this whole kerfuffle stevenleser Aug 2013 #114
Actually, in Los Angeles, people buy mailboxes with locks. That doesn't make it impossible, JDPriestly Aug 2013 #121
Well put... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #143
You don't have to be much of a student of human nature to know... TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #152
That article was written about Franken back in June 2013 before some of the recent sessions. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #86
Police have guns and battering rams. Better take those away too. Recursion Aug 2013 #5
True, but it is nearly impossible to do it in secret PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #6
I don't know; apparently we blow up reporters' cars now Recursion Aug 2013 #8
Let's just get rid of the cops, the army, social security, medicare, the IRS, etc. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #11
A hacker COULD do almost everything alleged too. How do you propose we stop that? The point of that stevenleser Aug 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Scuba Aug 2013 #13
Is it being used against Al? Scuba Aug 2013 #14
My Mailman Can Read My Mail Any Time He Wants To Skraxx Aug 2013 #21
It is a crime to open other people's mail. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #47
Indeed, That's My Point, So Is Listening To Peoples Phone Calls and Reading Their Emails Skraxx Aug 2013 #51
I believe that is an untrue statement. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #52
So Listening To Phone Calls Without A Warrant Is Not A Crime? LOL! Umm, Your "Belief" Is Irrelevant Skraxx Aug 2013 #53
There was more to your statement than that. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #54
No There Wasn't; Listening to Phonecalls and Reading Emails w/out Warrants Is A Crime, Period. Skraxx Aug 2013 #96
Holder does not agree with you PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #97
And its a crime for NSA personel to look at stuff that isn't cleared and a national security concern phleshdef Aug 2013 #58
is it a crime or just an internal policy? n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #62
A reply to you all. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #29
Shall not be violated? MADem Aug 2013 #129
when did the Constitution EVER apply to Russia or China? n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #130
So, they're welcome to our shit, then! nt MADem Aug 2013 #132
okee dokee PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #133
Not really. MADem Aug 2013 #134
they would tell us if they were planning to markiv Aug 2013 #35
I guess you disapprove of the Income Tax? brooklynite Aug 2013 #45
I don't like the IRS's reach into my life. However, it knows what I have snappyturtle Aug 2013 #128
Yeah, under a different administration. pnwmom Aug 2013 #75
Reason, but hey ... who needs that shit now. Limbaugh and Greenwald said Government = bad uponit7771 Aug 2013 #3
Clapper and Alexander had a perfectly good forum to Aerows Aug 2013 #25
...yeah, an idiot and a basher...throw them to the dogs and I understand clappers story uponit7771 Aug 2013 #72
See, here's where the bucket fails to hold any water Aerows Aug 2013 #82
Are you talking about the question Senator Wyden asked Clapper? neverforget Aug 2013 #110
And we should believe the NSA has been 100% forthcoming with any Senator because...? n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #4
Exactly. Gregorian Aug 2013 #17
Two of them lied before Congress Aerows Aug 2013 #23
I think we can do better than LGF (nt) Recursion Aug 2013 #7
Another corporate shill eissa Aug 2013 #9
Uh oh, time to throw Franken under the bus now. stevenleser Aug 2013 #10
lol, i understand the subject but i still okieinpain Aug 2013 #19
When he was running for office, and stated that we needed to keep the Big Insurers in the loop, truedelphi Aug 2013 #16
That's how I feel about him. n/t LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #43
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #65
And just who are these "bad guys" starroute Aug 2013 #18
Al Franken was a hero of the "Snowden=hero, Obama=bad" Progressive dog Aug 2013 #36
Do I need to quote Thomas Jefferson here? starroute Aug 2013 #79
OMG, quotes from Jefferson, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #149
It's the Qaeda. They're out there... chattering... increasingly... sometimes not so much, Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #71
Indeed, the "bad guy" scenario chervilant Aug 2013 #141
Al Franken, from hero to scoundrel in one simple sentence. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #22
So you believe that people that lie Aerows Aug 2013 #28
Common sense tells me that I should believe Al Franken Progressive dog Aug 2013 #40
Common sense tells me Aerows Aug 2013 #42
I wish I was les scynical and could accept your logic. truedelphi Aug 2013 #76
Puppet strings, all government are pompous puppets, especially if they Progressive dog Aug 2013 #87
Many of us have already remarked on that "line." truedelphi Aug 2013 #98
If the elected government does stuff we don't like, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #100
Before some random internet poster, pnwmom Aug 2013 #77
Fuck Ron Paul. JTFrog Aug 2013 #80
I agree, I was mocking the obvious Pauitel Libertarians Progressive dog Aug 2013 #151
If it comes down to siding with Ron Paul on one side, and Sen Frankin & Pres Obama on the other baldguy Aug 2013 #109
If it comes down to siding with Jimmy Carter on one side Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #116
Ask Valarie Plame if Cheney isn't above breaking the law like Snowden did. baldguy Aug 2013 #145
Good for you, I'm with Obama and Franken Progressive dog Aug 2013 #148
I"m sorry... Did you say "check your dailypaul?" Orrex Aug 2013 #144
Yes I said Dailypaul, I was mockng those supposed Progressive dog Aug 2013 #146
Ah. Sorry--missed the joke Orrex Aug 2013 #147
How confident is my esteemed Senator that he's being truthfully briefed? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #24
Not at all Aerows Aug 2013 #27
He got the least untruthful answer Aerows Aug 2013 #30
NOBODY can be trusted with that much power markiv Aug 2013 #31
We're spying on the people. That's the ONLY thing these programs do... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #37
+100000 woo me with science Aug 2013 #56
Yep. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #67
Lie vs Lie...er I mean Spy vs...er leftstreet Aug 2013 #83
Franken voted against worker protections in the immigration bill,too markiv Aug 2013 #38
he's revived his comedy career, playing a senator who will say markiv Aug 2013 #39
This article is 2 months old. Franken has very different comments now... riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #44
Good catch. wtmusic Aug 2013 #49
Bravo! Important that people's views be allowed to evolve and that they HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #66
The positions are not "very different." SunSeeker Aug 2013 #94
Yup, Franken is still funny! Helen Borg Aug 2013 #46
Are the bad guys people who get droned? wtmusic Aug 2013 #48
But, but, but, those kids mighta, coulda maybe grown up to be bad guys. RC Aug 2013 #104
Sorry, Sen. Franken, but that doesn't wash. blackspade Aug 2013 #50
Your last line is self explanatory. RC Aug 2013 #106
Franken supported SOPA and PIPA, too. woo me with science Aug 2013 #55
Mmmm... sopaipillas. Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #74
con chile verde por favor! bobduca Aug 2013 #112
:-| DeSwiss Aug 2013 #57
Wow, putting a comment that's no longer relevant, nice try at propaganda AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #59
So all of the fantasists who are intent on loosing the Senate intaglio Aug 2013 #60
you got it right there! dionysus Aug 2013 #123
I hate these kinds of rides. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #61
Al, what happened to you? Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #63
Imagine if terror tactics were used against US in the age before electronic communication . . . SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #64
That's dated June 10th. His position has changed. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #68
How has it changed? Does he now say the NSA spies on Americans? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #95
Please tell me that he is not a chess player. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #69
Franken doesn't get it. We knew this about him already. closeupready Aug 2013 #70
Thank you. Your remrks are spot on. n/t truedelphi Aug 2013 #78
there is no fourth amendment Egnever Aug 2013 #125
That's such a right-wing meme, you should be ashamed of yourself. closeupready Aug 2013 #142
Franken has heard apologists for the program present the theory. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #73
I loved Al Franken, but he's become the biggest disappointment since... maddiemom Aug 2013 #85
Two words: NIXON ADMINISTRATION lastlib Aug 2013 #88
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #90
Totally agree with Senator Franken. DCBob Aug 2013 #101
98.4% of you are paranoid. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #102
But that does not mean they are not after you. RC Aug 2013 #108
Bullshit. And shame on you woo me with science Aug 2013 #153
I can see that our good friend the Senator has already been thrown under the purity bus... Hekate Aug 2013 #105
He's been run over by the bus, backed over by the bus davidpdx Aug 2013 #137
are you another willing to toss his freedom under the bus to spout the party line? bowens43 Aug 2013 #139
Absolutely. No question about it. Franken is my kind of authoritarian. You can make book on that. nt Hekate Aug 2013 #154
I trust and respect Franken over Snowden any day. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #115
Franken is a good guy, but he's always been rather trusting of authority. Marr Aug 2013 #119
He is not a born politician... Helen Borg Aug 2013 #140
can someone help pull al from under the bus? madrchsod Aug 2013 #131
He forgot to add an important line. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #136
and yet it is spying on the American people..... collecting the data is spying. Period. bowens43 Aug 2013 #138
Too late, the kabuki theater was exposed early on Rex Aug 2013 #150
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