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In reply to the discussion: Obama Is Giving Up Some Executive Power, and He’ll Still Get No Credit [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)76. An Educational excerpt from Wiki so that everybody can enjoy the visual.
A petard was a small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications,
Petard comes from the Middle French peter, to break wind, from pet expulsion of intestinal gas,
Petardiers were used during sieges of castles or fortified cities. The petard, a rather primitive and exceedingly dangerous explosive device, consisted of a brass or iron bell-shaped device filled with gunpowder fixed to a wooden base called a madrier. This was attached to a wall or gate using hooks and rings, the fuse lit and, if successful, the resulting explosive force, concentrated at the target point, would blow a hole in the obstruction, allowing assault troops to enter.
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If a petard detonated prematurely, the petardier would be lifted by the explosion. In addition, the usual human response is to get away from trouble by the most direct means possible, but a straight line is rarely the safest route of departure while under fire, and this is particularly true after setting a petard. The backblast went straight back from the fortification: if the petardier also moved straight back he would be [font size=3]"hoist by his own petard"[/font].
Petard comes from the Middle French peter, to break wind, from pet expulsion of intestinal gas,
Petardiers were used during sieges of castles or fortified cities. The petard, a rather primitive and exceedingly dangerous explosive device, consisted of a brass or iron bell-shaped device filled with gunpowder fixed to a wooden base called a madrier. This was attached to a wall or gate using hooks and rings, the fuse lit and, if successful, the resulting explosive force, concentrated at the target point, would blow a hole in the obstruction, allowing assault troops to enter.
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If a petard detonated prematurely, the petardier would be lifted by the explosion. In addition, the usual human response is to get away from trouble by the most direct means possible, but a straight line is rarely the safest route of departure while under fire, and this is particularly true after setting a petard. The backblast went straight back from the fortification: if the petardier also moved straight back he would be [font size=3]"hoist by his own petard"[/font].
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Obama Is Giving Up Some Executive Power, and He’ll Still Get No Credit [View all]
Recursion
Aug 2013
OP
More right wing bullshit (expansion of executive branch) and we're suppsoed to believe NONE of it
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#5
Nice straw men there, but I don't care what Rand Paul has to say about anything...
Demo_Chris
Aug 2013
#29
No, you made fact-free and hyperbolic claim, and dismissing Rand Paul doesn't change that. n/t
ProSense
Aug 2013
#39
or Obama's workable because he's tryign to walk the programs back some. Again, I'm not going
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#56
immediately declassify and explain in detail how our entire intelligence gather apparatus works...
dionysus
Aug 2013
#126
Pointing out the modus operandi of authoritarian propaganda is not a personal attack.
woo me with science
Aug 2013
#75
"Making it legal." The travesty of corporate/authoritarian "morality."
woo me with science
Aug 2013
#79
I've said it before, no matter what Obama does purist left and FUDr will find something pick
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#4
"Until he eliminates completely, everything else on the subject of spying is just spin and lies."
ProSense
Aug 2013
#104
'Obama says' doesn't cut it anymore. His speeches are just speeches. They mean nothing.
bowens43
Aug 2013
#63
I re-read the speech and it seems to me like he was speaking of winding down military actions...
dkf
Aug 2013
#70
Can you post the relevant section please? I don't want to have to guess what your point is.
dkf
Aug 2013
#95
Well, I tried wading thru this thread and all I'm seeing is the usual hyperventilation, so,
Benton D Struckcheon
Aug 2013
#91