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In reply to the discussion: Obama Is Giving Up Some Executive Power, and He’ll Still Get No Credit [View all]Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Until he eliminates completely, everything else on the subject of spying is just spin and lies. If he was really concerned about protecting the rights and privacy of the American people, he'd gut that fascist law, burn the paper it was printed on, and mail the ashes to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. And I'm only slightly exaggerating, heh, heh. Actually, I'm not exaggerating at all, that's what I would do.
As for gay marriage, he didn't do anything on that until like, I don't remember exactly, something like 2011 when he actually, finally came out and said he supported it? Welcome to the party that the rest of us have been at since the 90's Obama.
And no, the idea is not to be dismissive. The idea is to demand and expect better from our leaders. In a perfect world and a true democracy, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because Obama would have done away with every fascist thing the Bush administration did during his first term in office. He would have closed Guantanamo, eliminated the Patriot Act, arrested and prosecuted the banksters (not whistleblowers, take a hint there ProSense), and brought ALL of our troops home. We shouldn't have had to lobby Obama for years on gay marriage. He should have supported it all along because it was the right thing to do.