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muriel_volestrangler

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11. It was good enough a generation ago

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 06:44 AM

Aug 2013

Typical car:

Sierra 1.6L (2/10/82) Dates tested in brackets by Autocar.

0-60 =13.1

http://passionford.com/forum/ford-sierra-sapphire-rs500-cosworth/217941-new-sierra-prices-and-performance-stats.html

No, the entire world were not 'idiots' a generation ago. We might ask if people who think ever-faster acceleration times are the be all and end all of cars are the 'idiots', though ...

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The Volkswagen XL1: 147 mpg car. [View all] TheMightyFavog Aug 2013 OP

Flux capacitor. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #1

VW assures us the XL1 requires no plutonium to operate... DreamGypsy Aug 2013 #4

Or an onboard "Mister Fusion" and some organic garbage. DetlefK Aug 2013 #26

I think it's ugly Politicalboi Aug 2013 #2

Ugly does indeed sell: kentauros Aug 2013 #23

ditto to that.....ugly. a kennedy Aug 2013 #25

I kinda like some of it, but really hate that the wheels are covered like that. RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #3

The wheels need to be covered like that for aerodynamic efficiency jmowreader Aug 2013 #5

56 Mercurys had fender skirts. kentuck Aug 2013 #6

Classic KansDem Aug 2013 #28

My favorite car from the 50's... kentuck Aug 2013 #54

Clearly performance trumps aesthetics in a car like this RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #7

It's probably fun to change a tire... nt jakeXT Aug 2013 #12

0-60 in 12.6 seconds. flvegan Aug 2013 #8

It was good enough a generation ago muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #11

What makes you think that a Sierra 1.6L represents the typical car of a generation ago? EOTE Aug 2013 #14

OK, we'll take a really high selling model - the Toyota Corolla muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #17

Economy cars with low compression four bangers do NOT represent the average car. EOTE Aug 2013 #21

What part of 'world best selling car' do you not understand? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #22

None of them, especially considering you didn't use those words until now. EOTE Aug 2013 #24

Maybe it's your American blinders, then muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #30

Maybe it's your European blinders, then. EOTE Aug 2013 #32

I've been showing the figures that prove you wrong; you just assert things muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #37

No, you're spouting off random bits of information which really says nothing in totality. EOTE Aug 2013 #39

And you ignore both what most models do, and what my point was: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #40

I never said it makes anyone an 'idiot'. EOTE Aug 2013 #41

flvegan said it, and that was what I replied to; you replied to me muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #44

Any you just demonstrated your abysmal lack of understanding of basic statistics. TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #47

And of the other myriad 200+ HP vehicles remaining? EOTE Aug 2013 #50

"Those Mercedes" most certainly did not average more than 150 HP. LTX Aug 2013 #59

And you'd be wrong. How many millions of VW's still cruise the roads of South America? TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #63

You're talking best selling car. The Ford F-series is a full sized pick-up truck and has been ... spin Aug 2013 #43

Again, what truck the US buys is not relevant to a German car (subject of the OP) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #46

Pick up trucks sell well in the U.S. for many reasons. ... spin Aug 2013 #55

The Ford Focus, an "American lump of metal" is the world's best-selling car. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #57

Sure; it was developed in Germany muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #61

Heh heh. "4 banger." Orrex Aug 2013 #38

LOL! The Sierra 1.6? The Pinto engine? flvegan Aug 2013 #15

You see, your mentality is the problem muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #16

What, that I'm not satisfied by crap? Okay. Guilty. flvegan Aug 2013 #18

The problem is you call people who aren't like you are 'idiots' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #19

Please see post #64 and try again. flvegan Aug 2013 #65

No, you said the only group it is fast enough for is 'hypermiling idiots' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #66

Apparently we are to go backwards in performance Union Scribe Aug 2013 #58

corvette nil desperandum Aug 2013 #31

When might someone need faster acceleration than that? Orrex Aug 2013 #29

Short on-ramp. Glassunion Aug 2013 #49

Thanks Orrex Aug 2013 #51

Why do you feel the urge to call people idiots demwing Aug 2013 #42

That's not why. flvegan Aug 2013 #64

My 1991 subaru loyale goes 0-60 in roughly 14 seconds and I enjoy driving it. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #45

That's about the same as the original VW Beetle. leveymg Aug 2013 #52

It's a diesel (hybrid). DirkGently Aug 2013 #9

I will never buy another Volkswagen product NV Whino Aug 2013 #10

I hope the owner never has a rear tire blowout. Looks B Calm Aug 2013 #13

No, you can see there is a U shaped cover over the real wheel muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #20

Fender skirts aren't new Go Vols Aug 2013 #34

looks like a 1990 Ford Probe covered in shrink wrap markiv Aug 2013 #27

It would save me a couple thousand a year in fuel costs PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #33

It's 7 figures over the price of a non-hybrid. EOTE Aug 2013 #36

Don't know how true it is Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #35

I think it looks horrible. I like the idea, but I'll stick with my more economical vehicle. Glassunion Aug 2013 #48

Reminds me of the eartly 2000's... tridim Aug 2013 #53

The car I drive cost $800 and I usually drive it less than ten miles a week. hunter Aug 2013 #56

the 0.8L diesel engine is the secret to this thing. Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #60

There are already diesel hybrids coming out muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #62

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