Thanks, Stand Your Ground! No homicide charges for teen who shot, killed man

[Bazinga]

171. You were already talking about premeditated murder.

Your scenario was premeditated murder. Thinking "wouldn't it be fun to watch this guy die" is premeditation.

And I agree that murder should be difficult. I disagree that laws will stop it, and that's why I support laws that allow armed self-defense.

I also agree that my scenario was different in the fact that there would be a corroborating witness. It is, however, much more applicable to the current op than is your Zimmerman-esque concoction. Furthermore, would not my wife have a vested interest in lying to keep me out of jail? Seems a DA bent on convicting for something should be able to come up with a way to discredit her. Therein lies the design of SYG laws, to protect innocent people from over zealous prosecutors. It was never meant to protect murderers.

As for your scenario being precisely what happened in the Zimmerman case, I suggest you revisit the trial. There were witnesses, there was evidence, and the prosecution failed to present enough evidence to show beyond a reasonable doubt that it was anything but self-defense. How is that any different than any other murderer who walked because there was not enough evidence to convict him?

By the way I did respond to your question.

No self-defense law was ever meant to protect murderers. Nor are they meant to prevent murder from occurring. We have laws against murder for that.

You were talking about murder, and you were correct to say that there is nothing in SYG that prevents murder.

So if you are going to ignore my responses, claim to know what I do and do not know, and then award yourself a moral victory, then I am glad to surrender and seek alternate productive conversation.