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Showing Original Post only (View all)Snowden, "famously paranoid" [View all]
How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
By PETER MAASS
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In May, he sent encrypted messages telling the two of them to go to Hong Kong. Greenwald flew to New York from Rio, and Poitras joined him for meetings with the editor of The Guardians American edition. With the papers reputation on the line, the editor asked them to bring along a veteran Guardian reporter, Ewen MacAskill, and on June 1, the trio boarded a 16-hour flight from J.F.K. to Hong Kong.
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Snowden had instructed them that once they were in Hong Kong, they were to go at an appointed time to the Kowloon district and stand outside a restaurant that was in a mall connected to the Mira Hotel. There, they were to wait until they saw a man carrying a Rubiks Cube, then ask him when the restaurant would open. The man would answer their question, but then warn that the food was bad. When the man with the Rubiks Cube arrived, it was Edward Snowden, who was 29 at the time but looked even younger.
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For the next week, their preparations followed a similar pattern when they entered Snowdens room, they would remove their cellphone batteries and place them in the refrigerator of Snowdens minibar. They lined pillows against the door, to discourage eavesdropping from outside, then Poitras set up her camera and filmed. It was important to Snowden to explain to them how the governments intelligence machinery worked because he feared that he could be arrested at any time.
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Greenwalds first articles including the initial one detailing the Verizon order he read about on the flight to Hong Kong appeared while they were still in the process of interviewing Snowden. It made for a strange experience, creating the news together, then watching it spread. We could see it being covered, Poitras said. We were all surprised at how much attention it was getting....Snowden told them before they arrived in Hong Kong that he wanted to go public. He wanted to take responsibility for what he was doing, Poitras said, and he didnt want others to be unfairly targeted, and he assumed he would be identified at some point. She made a 12½-minute video of him that was posted online June 9, a few days after Greenwalds first articles. It triggered a media circus in Hong Kong, as reporters scrambled to learn their whereabouts.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
By PETER MAASS
<...>
In May, he sent encrypted messages telling the two of them to go to Hong Kong. Greenwald flew to New York from Rio, and Poitras joined him for meetings with the editor of The Guardians American edition. With the papers reputation on the line, the editor asked them to bring along a veteran Guardian reporter, Ewen MacAskill, and on June 1, the trio boarded a 16-hour flight from J.F.K. to Hong Kong.
<...>
Snowden had instructed them that once they were in Hong Kong, they were to go at an appointed time to the Kowloon district and stand outside a restaurant that was in a mall connected to the Mira Hotel. There, they were to wait until they saw a man carrying a Rubiks Cube, then ask him when the restaurant would open. The man would answer their question, but then warn that the food was bad. When the man with the Rubiks Cube arrived, it was Edward Snowden, who was 29 at the time but looked even younger.
<...>
For the next week, their preparations followed a similar pattern when they entered Snowdens room, they would remove their cellphone batteries and place them in the refrigerator of Snowdens minibar. They lined pillows against the door, to discourage eavesdropping from outside, then Poitras set up her camera and filmed. It was important to Snowden to explain to them how the governments intelligence machinery worked because he feared that he could be arrested at any time.
<...>
Greenwalds first articles including the initial one detailing the Verizon order he read about on the flight to Hong Kong appeared while they were still in the process of interviewing Snowden. It made for a strange experience, creating the news together, then watching it spread. We could see it being covered, Poitras said. We were all surprised at how much attention it was getting....Snowden told them before they arrived in Hong Kong that he wanted to go public. He wanted to take responsibility for what he was doing, Poitras said, and he didnt want others to be unfairly targeted, and he assumed he would be identified at some point. She made a 12½-minute video of him that was posted online June 9, a few days after Greenwalds first articles. It triggered a media circus in Hong Kong, as reporters scrambled to learn their whereabouts.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
E.S.: We came to a point in the verification and vetting process where I discovered Laura was more suspicious of me than I was of her, and Im famously paranoid. The combination of her experience and her exacting focus on detail and process gave her a natural talent for security, and thats a refreshing trait to discover in someone who is likely to come under intense scrutiny in the future, as normally one would have to work very hard to get them to take the risks seriously.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/snowden-maass-transcript.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/snowden-maass-transcript.html?_r=0
I mean, this sort of explains a lot of the wild, unproven claims, and the bizarre focus on foreign surveillance.
E.S.: Yes and no. I know journalists are busy and had assumed being taken seriously would be a challenge, especially given the paucity of detail I could initially offer. At the same time, this is 2013, and a journalist who regularly reported on the concentration and excess of state power. I was surprised to realize that there were people in news organizations who didnt recognize any unencrypted message sent over the Internet is being delivered to every intelligence service in the world. In the wake of this years disclosures, it should be clear that unencrypted journalist-source communication is unforgivably reckless.
Which reminds me of this:
Yes, I stand by it. US Persons do enjoy limited policy protections (and again, it's important to understand that policy protection is no protection - policy is a one-way ratchet that only loosens) and one very weak technical protection - a near-the-front-end filter at our ingestion points. The filter is constantly out of date, is set at what is euphemistically referred to as the "widest allowable aperture," and can be stripped out at any time. Even with the filter, US comms get ingested, and even more so as soon as they leave the border. Your protected communications shouldn't stop being protected communications just because of the IP they're tagged with.
More fundamentally, the "US Persons" protection in general is a distraction from the power and danger of this system. Suspicionless surveillance does not become okay simply because it's only victimizing 95% of the world instead of 100%. Our founders did not write that "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all US Persons are created equal."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower
More fundamentally, the "US Persons" protection in general is a distraction from the power and danger of this system. Suspicionless surveillance does not become okay simply because it's only victimizing 95% of the world instead of 100%. Our founders did not write that "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all US Persons are created equal."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower
Between the chats, interviews and PR events, the "media circus" hasn't ended.
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It's the regime that's acting paranoid. Pursuing scary whistle blowers and threatening them.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#1
Yes, that typically character-assassinating headline was hilarious from an "irony"
villager
Aug 2013
#2
Totally taken out of context. This is scraping the bottom of the barrel. nt
Mojorabbit
Aug 2013
#117
picking those two words out of the entire article and using it as a headline
Mojorabbit
Aug 2013
#140
Except there's a difference between the colloquial definition of paranoid and the clinical
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#164
Pursuing people entrusted with classified documents who steal thousands of them,
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#34
Well, we know Snowden is paranoid, because he said he was famous for being paranoid . . .
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#61
So, you and he agree that the world is very dangerous and we should all duck?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#72
Abandoning all pretense now that you've admitted to focusing on my "track record"?
ProSense
Aug 2013
#40
The talking points have arrived: all operatives should concentrate on possible mental illness.
xocet
Aug 2013
#8
I know right!!! It is just pitiful. "But he said he was paranoid!!11!!" LOL nt
Mojorabbit
Aug 2013
#152
LOL. I always find it amusing how people announce they're putting someone on ignore
Cali_Democrat
Aug 2013
#63
So I'm actually irritated and embittered that mike_c put ProSense on ignore?
Cali_Democrat
Aug 2013
#205
Oh but I could easily. I went back and looked at some so they are not hard to find at all.
Mojorabbit
Aug 2013
#188
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you” - Joseph Heller n/t
1awake
Aug 2013
#19
Paranoia is a component of wingnutism/Libertarianism. As "American" as Salem village. n/t
UTUSN
Aug 2013
#39
I rushed to this because I don't take kindly to perceived mental illness being exploited
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#51
Since you're not going to argue the points and simply deflect, we're done here
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#93
Paranoid with good cause, Obama has drones and he isn't afraid to use them......
bowens43
Aug 2013
#47
Some people claim you're a paid operative. I don't know if that's the case or not
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#71
I just alerted your attack. Let let it be noted you are a bully. I am sick of watching one DU'er
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#83
And of course your bullying attack wasn't locked. Congratulations, you are a bully
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#85
I don't find cause for celebration when I say what I want to say without having my words stricken.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#87
"As long as you keep misleading people, either I am or someone else is, going to rebut you."
ProSense
Aug 2013
#107
It is. Why would someone do something as "disturbing" as copying two months of someone's posts?
ProSense
Aug 2013
#121
Well, at least you admit that focusing on "bluelinks" is not the "healthy choice." n/t
ProSense
Aug 2013
#172