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muriel_volestrangler

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37. I've been showing the figures that prove you wrong; you just assert things

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:21 PM

Aug 2013

without evidence. I have shown you what typical car acceleration has been, just 10 years ago. And here's the world best-selling cars:

World 1960-1974: VW Beetle conquers the planet

World 1974: Toyota Corolla takes command

World 1975-1978: Toyota Corolla in the lead

World 1979: VW Golf passes Toyota Corolla to claim top spot

World 1980: Toyota Corolla clear leader, Renault 5 and VW Golf follow

World 1981-1989: Toyota Corolla from strength to strength

World 1990-1991: Toyota Corolla closes in on the million

World 1992-1997: Toyota Corolla reinforces world domination

World 1998: Opel Corsa the best-selling car in the world

World 2000: VW Golf in pole position! See the Top 120 best-selling models here!

World 2005: Toyota Corolla reclaims leadership

World 2006-2008: Toyota Corolla should stay on top

World 2009: Toyota Corolla #1 with 900,000+ sales

World 2010: Toyota Corolla leader, Hilux #1 in 28 countries

World 2011: Corolla faithful to pole position, discover the Top 100 best-selling models!

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2011/09/17/world-1997-2005-detailed-historical-data-now-available/

Notice all those years the F150 took the title, eh? Yes, clearly, me talking about VWs, Opels and Toyotas has been completely wrong when looking at the typical car the world buys! We must bow to the American lumps of metal that the rest of the world doesn't give a toss about.

'Suzuki Swift'? I didn't mention Suzuki. I didn't even mention a car in the same class as the Swift (though the Corsa, top selling for a year or two, is; 0-60 times of 10.2 to 16.5, except one sports model). Again, I get the impression that your knowledge of cars is limited.

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Clearly performance trumps aesthetics in a car like this RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #7

It's probably fun to change a tire... nt jakeXT Aug 2013 #12

0-60 in 12.6 seconds. flvegan Aug 2013 #8

It was good enough a generation ago muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #11

What makes you think that a Sierra 1.6L represents the typical car of a generation ago? EOTE Aug 2013 #14

OK, we'll take a really high selling model - the Toyota Corolla muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #17

Economy cars with low compression four bangers do NOT represent the average car. EOTE Aug 2013 #21

What part of 'world best selling car' do you not understand? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #22

None of them, especially considering you didn't use those words until now. EOTE Aug 2013 #24

Maybe it's your American blinders, then muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #30

Maybe it's your European blinders, then. EOTE Aug 2013 #32

I've been showing the figures that prove you wrong; you just assert things muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #37

No, you're spouting off random bits of information which really says nothing in totality. EOTE Aug 2013 #39

And you ignore both what most models do, and what my point was: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #40

I never said it makes anyone an 'idiot'. EOTE Aug 2013 #41

flvegan said it, and that was what I replied to; you replied to me muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #44

Any you just demonstrated your abysmal lack of understanding of basic statistics. TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #47

And of the other myriad 200+ HP vehicles remaining? EOTE Aug 2013 #50

"Those Mercedes" most certainly did not average more than 150 HP. LTX Aug 2013 #59

And you'd be wrong. How many millions of VW's still cruise the roads of South America? TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #63

You're talking best selling car. The Ford F-series is a full sized pick-up truck and has been ... spin Aug 2013 #43

Again, what truck the US buys is not relevant to a German car (subject of the OP) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #46

Pick up trucks sell well in the U.S. for many reasons. ... spin Aug 2013 #55

The Ford Focus, an "American lump of metal" is the world's best-selling car. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #57

Sure; it was developed in Germany muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #61

Heh heh. "4 banger." Orrex Aug 2013 #38

LOL! The Sierra 1.6? The Pinto engine? flvegan Aug 2013 #15

You see, your mentality is the problem muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #16

What, that I'm not satisfied by crap? Okay. Guilty. flvegan Aug 2013 #18

The problem is you call people who aren't like you are 'idiots' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #19

Please see post #64 and try again. flvegan Aug 2013 #65

No, you said the only group it is fast enough for is 'hypermiling idiots' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #66

Apparently we are to go backwards in performance Union Scribe Aug 2013 #58

corvette nil desperandum Aug 2013 #31

When might someone need faster acceleration than that? Orrex Aug 2013 #29

Short on-ramp. Glassunion Aug 2013 #49

Thanks Orrex Aug 2013 #51

Why do you feel the urge to call people idiots demwing Aug 2013 #42

That's not why. flvegan Aug 2013 #64

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That's about the same as the original VW Beetle. leveymg Aug 2013 #52

It's a diesel (hybrid). DirkGently Aug 2013 #9

I will never buy another Volkswagen product NV Whino Aug 2013 #10

I hope the owner never has a rear tire blowout. Looks B Calm Aug 2013 #13

No, you can see there is a U shaped cover over the real wheel muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #20

Fender skirts aren't new Go Vols Aug 2013 #34

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It's 7 figures over the price of a non-hybrid. EOTE Aug 2013 #36

Don't know how true it is Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #35

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The car I drive cost $800 and I usually drive it less than ten miles a week. hunter Aug 2013 #56

the 0.8L diesel engine is the secret to this thing. Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #60

There are already diesel hybrids coming out muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #62

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