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In reply to the discussion: Thanks, Stand Your Ground! No homicide charges for teen who shot, killed man [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)So, I can come after you wielding a stick and waving it about in a manner giving every single suggestion that I intend to beat you with it, and you aren't going to be afraid that imminent great bodily harm or even death are going to be the result if you don't defend yourself? You ever been smashed with a stick or seen it happen to someone else? You do realize that people have been severely beaten and died from some crazy that came after them "waving" a stick?
If Zimmerman went after Martin in the same manner wielding a stick would you not have believed that Martin who was doing nothing at all wrong and was merely walking home from the store had no right to be afraid of the stick wielding Zimmerman and had no legitimate reason to defend himself from what any normal thinking person would believe was an immanent threat of being beaten with a stick? If Martin had had a gun in this scenario would you really believe he should just have taken a beating from Zimmerman or would you have questioned why he just didn't run away or expected that he SHOULD have just run away even though that would have meant turning his back on Zimmerman wielding a stick and had no right to shoot him?
In the OP's case, some crazy dude violently went after some teenagers wielding a stick with the intent of beating the one kid he was pissed off at for no other reason than because he was pissed off at the kid for some imagined slight. I have not one ounce of sympathy for Mr. Stick Wielding Assault Threatening Choir Director for violently going after a teenager he was pissed off at with every intension of beating him with a stick for no other earthly reason than because he was pissed off at him. Boohoo for the shitbag violent thug that he didn't realize that the kid had a gun and would defend himself with it instead of kissing the hem of his garment and begging forgiveness for whatever slight the nutbag believed had been perpetrated against him. That's what violent nutbags expect when they go after someone with a weapon with every intention of using it, and too fucking bad for them they didn't consider that the object of their violence can and would defend themselves from said nutbag's attack on them.
This insanity of hating on a law that allows people the right to defend themselves from violent crazy people intent on harming them for no good reason is nuts, but even more nuts is the assumption in EVERY case that the person with the gun whether legitimately defending themselves or not must be the one at fault.
In this case, the choir director was the one who violently started a confrontation with a teenager he was pissed off at for an imagined slight. He was not harmed and there is no reason why he could not have just remained angry about their reckless driving, LEFT and called the police. That's what normal people do - not go after the teenagers with a stick intent on beating them with it just because you're pissed off over their reckless driving. He was in no further danger from the teenagers, and took it upon himself to violently confront them for no other reason than because he was angry and for some bizarre reason believed he had some kind of right to violently confront the teenagers with a stick intent on beating the kid with it just because he was angry. Just like Martin would still be alive if Zimmerman had just remained in his car, this nutbag would still be alive if he did not take it into his head to violently confront some teenagers he was pissed off at and was NOT in any way defending himself from them since HE violently went after THEM which he did NOT have any right to do, and from whom he was in no danger from.