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Rex

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15. It's all about 'national security'

Reply to Th1onein (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:19 PM

Aug 2013

even if they have to kill people...it would all be hidden as 'national security'.

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Owner of Snowden�s Email Service on Why He Closed Lavabit Rather Than Comply With Gov�t [View all] Catherina Aug 2013 OP

Former Internet Provider Gagged by National Security Letter Recounts How He Was Silenced For 6 Years Catherina Aug 2013 #1

INFORMATIN THAT HE IS BARRED FROM SHARING EVEN WITH HIS ATTORNEY? Th1onein Aug 2013 #2

+1 gvstn Aug 2013 #4

That jarred me too. Unbelievable. He estimates this fight will take him 10 years of his life Catherina Aug 2013 #9

you haven't read much about CALEA have you? snooper2 Aug 2013 #12

Trying to blame Bill Clinton for this now? Th1onein Aug 2013 #44

It's all about 'national security' Rex Aug 2013 #15

These actions cannot be defended. woo me with science Aug 2013 #21

Agreed. That is some extraordinary bullshit there. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #29

Holy Shit Aerows Aug 2013 #32

Amy Goodman has the BEST interviews. I had no idea what a great resource she was prior... dkf Aug 2013 #3

She's a national treasure. Worth the entire MSM put together n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #10

Mr. Levison is correct. bemildred Aug 2013 #5

PS: I expect that an attempt will be made to outlaw what Mr. Levison just did. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #7

+1. I read he's not out of the woods. He can still be charged with obstruction of justice Catherina Aug 2013 #11

Yep, something like that. bemildred Aug 2013 #13

How is this not a dictatorship if you have no rights and no recourse? dkf Aug 2013 #16

We are an authoritarian state, not totalitarian, not a dictatorship, a "managed democracy". bemildred Aug 2013 #19

you can see how unbelievably pissed he is at the entire mess xiamiam Aug 2013 #45

The attempt to outlaw what he did already exists dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #17

I agree. I expect more laws because this is show business, not law, bemildred Aug 2013 #22

big REC. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #24

There are already laws on the books that require businesses to retain business records for varying Purveyor Aug 2013 #27

Right, but now your ISP can delete your emails as soon as you drop service. bemildred Aug 2013 #31

I'm not sure how record retention policies apply to a email service provider. I'm been out of Purveyor Aug 2013 #33

Me either, but I think these questions are now being forced into the discussion. bemildred Aug 2013 #35

LADAR LEVISON: I think you should assume any communication that is electronic is being monitored. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #6

I take issue with *is* dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #18

what the definition of is is? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #20

Always treat email as you would a postcard. SeattleVet Aug 2013 #28

More than email. ANY thing digitally transmitted. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #30

+2^12 Agony Aug 2013 #8

+2^24 n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #39

k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #14

Publicity stunt to launch new email service. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #23

Huh. So Amy Goodman is now a shill? Bwahahahaha! Pholus Aug 2013 #26

You are discussing physics with someone Aerows Aug 2013 #38

I know. I know. But actually I was just trying out the new signature line! :) Pholus Aug 2013 #40

Are you going to be the first to explain to me Aerows Aug 2013 #36

OK, someone get the apologists who can explain how we aren't really spying on the American People. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #25

I'm waiting for the apologists Aerows Aug 2013 #34

Why can't we do security the way we used to? I still don't see the need for this Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #37

It was a really good powerpoint sales pitch I figure... Pholus Aug 2013 #41

You know, that is probably close to the truth of it. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #42

This is really chilling. Very hard to recognize this as America at this stage. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #43

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #46