Owner of Snowden’s Email Service on Why He Closed Lavabit Rather Than Comply With Gov’t

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17. The attempt to outlaw what he did already exists

It's called spoliation of evidence, but, so far, it can only apply after one has been made aware that there is evidence that could be demanded. If no such demand for preservation has been made, and there is no known action that might cause it to be demanded, no spoliation can occur.

I would imagine that more secret laws can be written which make it a crime to destroy anything that might conceivably be requested from the instant of its creation. And at that stage even throwing the trash out from your kitchen becomes a crime.

The secret courts and secret laws seem to want to make criminals of all of us. Then they "they" always have leverage on us when ever they need us to comply. It's usually called blackmail and I consider that whoever told Ladar he couldn't talk about this, even with his attorney, is guilty of said blackmail. That kind of secrecy has no place in an "Open Government", "Democratic", Nation of laws", presided over by a "Constitutional Scholar".

If failure to provide effective counsel is grounds for appeal, the government depriving a citizen of any counsel is an inherent grounds for vacating any conviction.