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In reply to the discussion: Q. & A.: Edward Snowden Speaks to Peter Maass: First question NYT asks: Why didn't you leak to us? [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)57. Well, Jane Harman who worked with Bushco to MANIPULATE the news from the NYT then was a DEMOCRAT!
So even then, there were corporatist Democrats that were willing to throw American's civil liberties under the bus to protect the powerful elites of the "shadow government" that uses the security state to control things. The bottom line is, even if the NYT later sought to make money from this article being released after the election, it was shown to be an entity that could be manipulated by the PTB to prevent the news doing what it is supposed to do (not just make money)! And that is inform the public in a TIMELY fashion, that would have provided the American voting populace to have important information they should have known about before the election when their voice could be a part of the equation to tell our government where they wanted it to go the coming four years in terms of what kid of security state they wanted. The NYT FAILED the American people in that regard, and we paid a price in perhaps not having choices made in that election that might have put a stop to the unconstitutional civil liberty violations that had started before then that I think most Americans are against.
I'm sure that Snowden noticed that the NYT sacrificed the American people's right to know at a critical time even if ultimately they published their story at a time when it could have less impact. It probably served as a warning to him that the NYT might this time around sacrifice Snowden's well being in exchange for them making money off of publishing a story he provided info for at a time that would avoid government accountability that the NYT could coordinate with the PTB like they did before in 2004 at the behest of Bushco and Democrat Jane Harman. I'm sure that Snowden, though he was prepared to make many sacrifices, didn't want to replicate the experiences of Bradley Manning himself if he could avoid it, especially if by avoiding this, he would be empowered to have more opportunity to get his message out in an effective way.
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Q. & A.: Edward Snowden Speaks to Peter Maass: First question NYT asks: Why didn't you leak to us? [View all]
Catherina
Aug 2013
OP
So like a good lawyer the NYT asked a question to which they already knew the answer
Fumesucker
Aug 2013
#3
I've been paying attention, but this provided a fuller picture of some aspects of the situation.
deurbano
Aug 2013
#25
Well thanks to corporatist Jane Harman and Bushco, this NYT story didn't come out in 2004!
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#5
Well, Jane Harman who worked with Bushco to MANIPULATE the news from the NYT then was a DEMOCRAT!
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#57
And then we elected Democrats to make sure it never happened again. Because the general consensus
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#52
I have no doubt that the demise of the paper medium was accelerated by their reluctance
Baitball Blogger
Aug 2013
#19
I used to be a paid subscriber to the Fri-Sun weekend special. Cancelled due to their
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#22
Are you also as tired of the massive amount of anti Snowden posts by ...you know who? n/t
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#12
no....it is just to point out that DU could be used for so much more than rehashing details about
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#63
or I can just comment on how old it is getting as one way of expressing myself
Pretzel_Warrior
Aug 2013
#67
Well DU wouldn't be DU without the everyday usual massive amount of anti-Snowden posts. n/t
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#33
If you are tired of reading about Snowden, learn how they re treating journalists...
dkf
Aug 2013
#18
No one made you click on this thread. There are lots of options to hide threads. nt
Mojorabbit
Aug 2013
#72
Uhmmm ...because they would sit on it for a year? Like they have in the past? n/t
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#8
See my edit. Peter Maas also wrote an excellent article that goes along with this
Catherina
Aug 2013
#17
It's Peter Maass, the news is fake that the news was fake award-winning writer, not Peter Maas.
proverbialwisdom
Aug 2013
#99
This isn't about Snowden, it's what we are learning about our government and the state of journalism
dkf
Aug 2013
#21
Prior to this I didn't realize how the paper of record keeps the governments secrets.
dkf
Aug 2013
#40
Prosense has been here for a very long time. She also posts on a wide range of topics.
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#54
What? Observing the gross hypocrisy when it comes to someone in your little clique?
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#77
BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SHIT!! Every male of color has the SAME EXACT EXCUSE in another context
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#24
The NYT's butthurt because they got scooped by someone that won't just sit on his ass.
backscatter712
Aug 2013
#34
It is not that people are falling for it, it is the govt gets to use it as justification.
Rex
Aug 2013
#83