Some people think that Chris Christie is much too out of shape to effectively hold office...

[MADem]

27. Hell, booze wasn't the worst of Teddy's problems!

Not by a LONG shot.

Teddy had a HUGE, debilitating, shitloads-of-blow-in-the-top-right-drawer, snorting-in-the-Senate-offices, nasty ass coke habit around the Chappaquiddick era that really fucked up his judgment. The first hugely stupid thing he did was challenge an incumbent President and help to hand the damn reins of power to the GOP (it wasn't all his fault, certainly, but he didn't help the situation) as a consequence. He had a few "ineffective" years on the Hill where he was a total asshole and was relying almost entirely on the hard work of his very talented staff--particularly the senior leadership on that staff-- to carry him.

And--for the record--he was my Senator and I liked the guy. Voted for him at every opportunity, even did a little campaign work for him a time or two.

But for a bit there, he was a fuckup, and addiction was what made him fuck up.

Fortunately, he saw the error of his ways, got off the coke, Vicki (his savior, really) got him straightened out and off the hooch, and he got back on track. He was redeemed and went on to do great things.

See--you may have been looking for me to say "Oooooooooooh, noooooooooo--don't say anything bad about Saint Ted, now!" but it didn't work, now, did it?

Let those chips fall where they may. He was an imperfect creature, as are most of us.


As for your linked article--why do you think it is the 'duty' of the OP (or anyone else) to "mention" it? You are entirely free to do that in rebuttal to him, if the topic bothers you so much, but don't insist that he is somehow wanting for not fighting YOUR battles for you. You've got to make your own arguments, not approach them from the "You shouldn't say that/Why didn't you say this," POV.

And why do you insist that everyone MUST have a "policy point" to discuss? Since when is that a hard-and-fast rule? "I don't like your topic" is never a winner argument, IMO. We talk about stupid crap here at DU all the time--it's fun, sometimes.

This OP does have a point, actually, (that Christie isn't a healthy officeholder) and it also has a grand dose of rude snark (the "round" bit). It is what it is. You don't have to agree with any of the points the OP makes, but I don't think it is appropriate to try to shut the guy up because you don't like the topic of conversation, either. Argue it out. If you can't come to terms, agree to disagree. Or use the "I don't like this shit and I don't want to deal with it" buttons that Skinner, et.al. have provided to us.

It's just the internet, after all.