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In reply to the discussion: Disenfranchised 92yo black woman sues just hours after NC gov. signs voter ID law [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)52. Indeed, JustAnotherGen, please read here:
Whiteness, NSA Spying and the Irony of Racial Privilege
By Tim Wise - June 19, 2013
(Going with just the four of the paragraphs I think are important, but it is worth the time to read it all. It goes into what most of us know and had to consider. Wise covers all sides with his usual clarity, cutting through it all to get to what's really important.)
...That said, I also must admit to a certain nonchalance in the face of the recent revelations about the National Security Agencys snooping into phone records, and the dust-up over the leaking of the NSAs program by Ed Snowden. And as I tried to figure out why I wasnt more animated upon hearing the revelations and, likewise, why so many others were it struck me. Those who are especially chapped about the program, about the very concept of their government keeping tabs on them in effect profiling them as potential criminals, as terrorists are almost entirely those for whom shit like this is new: people who have never before been presumed criminal, up to no good, or worthy of suspicion.
In short, they are mostly white. And male. And middle-class or above. And most assuredly not Muslim.
And although I too am those things, perhaps because I work mostly on issues of racism, white privilege and racial inequity and because my mentors and teachers have principally been people of color, for whom things like this are distressingly familiar the latest confirmation that the U.S. is far from the nation we were sold as children is hardly Earth-shattering. After all, it is only those who have had the relative luxury of remaining in a child-like, innocent state with regard to the empire in which they reside who can be driven to such distraction by something that, compared to what lots of folks deal with every day, seems pretty weak tea.
...These are the crimes of empire. These and a lot more. And it didnt take Edward Snowden to tell you about them. Theyve been hiding in plain sight for a long time.
http://www.timwise.org/2013/06/whiteness-nsa-spying-and-the-irony-of-racial-privilege/#print
Someone retorted to me on a post, that just because Obama had brought about equality of opportunity, and he was going to be groped by POC or women, it didn't make it right, and he was not going to accept his rights being infringed!
'Well, Doh!' I thought, but didn't say anything. Sadly, what goes around, comes around. Welcome to the world of those who didn't and still don't, have privilege:

Hey, you guys don't like having your 'junk' being groped at the airport?
Try some real groping.
Mandated for daring to ask for a legal procedure. You will be billed for it as well, despite your not wanting to have that thing jammed all the way up...
There you go, little ladies, we know what's best for you.
'Just close your eyes and think of... Liberty? Freedom? Privacy rights?'
No fourth amendment for you, sweetie.
The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. It was adopted as a response to the abuse of the writ of assistance, which is a type of general search warrant, in the American Revolution. Search and seizure (including arrest) should be limited in scope according to specific information supplied to the issuing court, usually by a law enforcement officer, who has sworn by it. The Fourth Amendment applies to the states by way of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Paul Ryan has promised the GOP will repeal the Fourteenth Amendment with its clauses for Equal Protection under the law, Birthright Citizenship and Due Process when they get enough red states, through state conventions. It's on a video thread posted at DU.
I call it a 'clear and present danger' to life and liberty of well, uh, women, since it's apparent in the 'hands on' fascism enacted state by state by the GOP, that females need the Fourth and Fourteenth Amedments. Strangely enough, there doesn't seem to be much concern about how they apply to women.
Animal Farm. All animals are created equal. But some animals are more equal than others.
ALL YOUR UTERI ARE BELONG TO US.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014523420#post22
That's half the population being ignored there. It is not that I want to have people drug down, but to open their eyes to what has been going on that they did benefit from, but they yell that they are 'not racist' or sexist or whatever, when they didn't care before.
Did they hear the voices of those crying before, and why do they still refuse to pay attention to them now, is the question. They never respond to the issues you are speaking of here, JAG.
They are libertarians passing themselves off as liberals, only support their libertarian heroes. It's the reason they say 'both parties are the same' as they aren't Democrats, so to them, that's not lying. They are here taking advantage of the platform DU affords, to use the servers for which we are all paying.
And the 'I'm disappointed with Obama,' crowd, also elaborated upon by Wise in his piece I've quoted here:
http://www.timwise.org/2012/01/of-broken-clocks-presidential-candidates-and-the-confusion-of-certain-white-liberals/
I'm not buying what they're selling to us.
By Tim Wise - June 19, 2013
(Going with just the four of the paragraphs I think are important, but it is worth the time to read it all. It goes into what most of us know and had to consider. Wise covers all sides with his usual clarity, cutting through it all to get to what's really important.)
...That said, I also must admit to a certain nonchalance in the face of the recent revelations about the National Security Agencys snooping into phone records, and the dust-up over the leaking of the NSAs program by Ed Snowden. And as I tried to figure out why I wasnt more animated upon hearing the revelations and, likewise, why so many others were it struck me. Those who are especially chapped about the program, about the very concept of their government keeping tabs on them in effect profiling them as potential criminals, as terrorists are almost entirely those for whom shit like this is new: people who have never before been presumed criminal, up to no good, or worthy of suspicion.
In short, they are mostly white. And male. And middle-class or above. And most assuredly not Muslim.
And although I too am those things, perhaps because I work mostly on issues of racism, white privilege and racial inequity and because my mentors and teachers have principally been people of color, for whom things like this are distressingly familiar the latest confirmation that the U.S. is far from the nation we were sold as children is hardly Earth-shattering. After all, it is only those who have had the relative luxury of remaining in a child-like, innocent state with regard to the empire in which they reside who can be driven to such distraction by something that, compared to what lots of folks deal with every day, seems pretty weak tea.
...These are the crimes of empire. These and a lot more. And it didnt take Edward Snowden to tell you about them. Theyve been hiding in plain sight for a long time.
http://www.timwise.org/2013/06/whiteness-nsa-spying-and-the-irony-of-racial-privilege/#print
Someone retorted to me on a post, that just because Obama had brought about equality of opportunity, and he was going to be groped by POC or women, it didn't make it right, and he was not going to accept his rights being infringed!
'Well, Doh!' I thought, but didn't say anything. Sadly, what goes around, comes around. Welcome to the world of those who didn't and still don't, have privilege:
Hey, you guys don't like having your 'junk' being groped at the airport?
Try some real groping.
Mandated for daring to ask for a legal procedure. You will be billed for it as well, despite your not wanting to have that thing jammed all the way up...
There you go, little ladies, we know what's best for you.
'Just close your eyes and think of... Liberty? Freedom? Privacy rights?'
No fourth amendment for you, sweetie.
The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. It was adopted as a response to the abuse of the writ of assistance, which is a type of general search warrant, in the American Revolution. Search and seizure (including arrest) should be limited in scope according to specific information supplied to the issuing court, usually by a law enforcement officer, who has sworn by it. The Fourth Amendment applies to the states by way of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Paul Ryan has promised the GOP will repeal the Fourteenth Amendment with its clauses for Equal Protection under the law, Birthright Citizenship and Due Process when they get enough red states, through state conventions. It's on a video thread posted at DU.
I call it a 'clear and present danger' to life and liberty of well, uh, women, since it's apparent in the 'hands on' fascism enacted state by state by the GOP, that females need the Fourth and Fourteenth Amedments. Strangely enough, there doesn't seem to be much concern about how they apply to women.
Animal Farm. All animals are created equal. But some animals are more equal than others.
ALL YOUR UTERI ARE BELONG TO US.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014523420#post22
That's half the population being ignored there. It is not that I want to have people drug down, but to open their eyes to what has been going on that they did benefit from, but they yell that they are 'not racist' or sexist or whatever, when they didn't care before.
Did they hear the voices of those crying before, and why do they still refuse to pay attention to them now, is the question. They never respond to the issues you are speaking of here, JAG.
They are libertarians passing themselves off as liberals, only support their libertarian heroes. It's the reason they say 'both parties are the same' as they aren't Democrats, so to them, that's not lying. They are here taking advantage of the platform DU affords, to use the servers for which we are all paying.
And the 'I'm disappointed with Obama,' crowd, also elaborated upon by Wise in his piece I've quoted here:
http://www.timwise.org/2012/01/of-broken-clocks-presidential-candidates-and-the-confusion-of-certain-white-liberals/
I'm not buying what they're selling to us.
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Disenfranchised 92yo black woman sues just hours after NC gov. signs voter ID law [View all]
bigtree
Aug 2013
OP
Just stumbled back on this one... I agreed with it but didn't reply. Your words have come true!
freshwest
Sep 2014
#113
Yes, and only a strong GOTV will drive these guys from power. I'm encouraged by GA, MA and CO.
freshwest
Sep 2014
#115
Between the gerrymandered districts and corporate money and corporate-programmed voting machine
loudsue
Aug 2013
#11
They weren't trying to discriminate against racial and ethnic minorities.....
freemay20
Aug 2013
#18
Repukes don't want people to vote...the fewer the voters, the better their chances...
joeybee12
Aug 2013
#68
It's not what is takes to register - it's the time and money to get the photo ID
csziggy
Aug 2013
#96
What sort of ideology drives people to make it HARDER for people to vote in a democracy?
RedCappedBandit
Aug 2013
#43
This is a loong tough fight!! What a beautiful role model this Lady is!! Much Thanks to Her!! <3
hue
Aug 2013
#46
She's an example for all of us. Long may she live, and may she prevail in this case!
freshwest
Aug 2013
#50
Ohh, I think there are some State courts that will. The lawsuits will take time and money...
Hekate
Aug 2013
#61
There is NO problem with voter fraud...The GOP's PROBLEM is with the universal franchise.
Faryn Balyncd
Aug 2013
#64
The more I hear about NC's latest move, with the backdrop of the Supreme Court ruling,
ecstatic
Aug 2013
#80