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Catherina

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79. Haha lol, I would not have stayed, not in a million years

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:03 PM

Aug 2013

but I agree heading to Venezuela would have been a better choice but then you have to deal with logistics. There are no direct flights from Honolulu to Venezuela that don't stop on the mainland, not even from Honolulu to Mexico.

But lol, Hong Kong, not China. I could see your point if he went to mainland China but he didn't. And not for a million, million years would I have stayed in the US to fight the system- you can't fight very effectively from solitary and we would have gagged him totally. People who get National Security Letters aren't even allowed to talk about them. Sibel Edmonds was gagged and people like Aaron Shwartz kind of mysteriously suicided. Barrett Brown and his lawyers are prohibited from talking to the media. Not for a million years would I have stayed.

Edit: Sorry I took so long. I just got a new 'guest'.

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Q. & A.: Edward Snowden Speaks to Peter Maass: First question NYT asks: Why didn't you leak to us? [View all] Catherina Aug 2013 OP

More stuff that anyone paying attention already knew. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #1

So like a good lawyer the NYT asked a question to which they already knew the answer Fumesucker Aug 2013 #3

I used to believe that there were no stupid questions Demeter Aug 2013 #93

I've been paying attention, but this provided a fuller picture of some aspects of the situation. deurbano Aug 2013 #25

Yeah, it's all old news...... Th1onein Aug 2013 #28

You forgot the boxes in the garage nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #47

What did you know? Please share this information with us, thank you. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #51

Bush spied on journalists, military officers, and Obama. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #90

Apparently the Cult of Personality is OK CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #62

+1 one_voice Aug 2013 #81

Well, the NYT did expose Bush's illegal spying in 2005. ProSense Aug 2013 #2

Well thanks to corporatist Jane Harman and Bushco, this NYT story didn't come out in 2004! cascadiance Aug 2013 #5

+1000 deurbano Aug 2013 #27

True, but they still revealed it in 2005. ProSense Aug 2013 #45

Well, Jane Harman who worked with Bushco to MANIPULATE the news from the NYT then was a DEMOCRAT! cascadiance Aug 2013 #57

And then we elected Democrats to make sure it never happened again. Because the general consensus sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author cascadiance Aug 2013 #56

More on the interview: ProSense Aug 2013 #4

Lol. n/t ronnie624 Aug 2013 #35

Let it be a lesson to all American papers. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #6

Or they would have sat on the story until after November of 2016 - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #13

I have no doubt that the demise of the paper medium was accelerated by their reluctance Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #19

I used to be a paid subscriber to the Fri-Sun weekend special. Cancelled due to their HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #22

I'm tired of hearing about yellow-bellied Snowden Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #7

Are you also as tired of the massive amount of anti Snowden posts by ...you know who? n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #12

Yes. The Snowden topic is boring. Let's talk about what had ALREADY Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #15

You got the tools on this site nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #48

I refuse to take refuge in "ignore" and "hide". Very lame. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #55

You obviously do not know of just not seeing nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #60

no....it is just to point out that DU could be used for so much more than rehashing details about Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #63

It is clear to me that is your opinion nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #65

or I can just comment on how old it is getting as one way of expressing myself Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #67

And the comment will now be ignored for it is worthless and IMO nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #68

Yes ...let's talk about that... L0oniX Aug 2013 #61

No, of course not. Th1onein Aug 2013 #30

Well DU wouldn't be DU without the everyday usual massive amount of anti-Snowden posts. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #33

If you are tired of reading about Snowden, learn how they re treating journalists... dkf Aug 2013 #18

Probably Julian Assange George II Aug 2013 #53

No one made you click on this thread. There are lots of options to hide threads. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #72

Autotrash by keyword. Glad I could help. morningfog Aug 2013 #96

Uhmmm ...because they would sit on it for a year? Like they have in the past? n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #8

they have access to Snowden, and THAT's what the NYTs wants to know? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #9

See my edit. Peter Maas also wrote an excellent article that goes along with this Catherina Aug 2013 #17

got it -- thanks! definitely a more substantial read! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #70

It's Peter Maass, the news is fake that the news was fake award-winning writer, not Peter Maas. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #99

BINGO! Th1onein Aug 2013 #31

LOL. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #10

So will anyone question Catherina's obsession as they did Prosense? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #11

This isn't about Snowden, it's what we are learning about our government and the state of journalism dkf Aug 2013 #21

It's not about Snowden!!! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #29

An interview of Snowden isn't about Snowden? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #32

Prior to this I didn't realize how the paper of record keeps the governments secrets. dkf Aug 2013 #40

Catherina - 32,500 posts. ProSense 101,000 + posts grasswire Aug 2013 #38

LOL! ProSense Aug 2013 #41

Let me fill you in on the humor: ProSense Aug 2013 #42

knock yourself out grasswire Aug 2013 #44

LOL! The attempt was a massive FAIL. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #50

Prosense has been here for a very long time. She also posts on a wide range of topics. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #54

I don't think post count is how you measure obsession... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #95

Wow is that ever lame. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #73

What? Observing the gross hypocrisy when it comes to someone in your little clique? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #77

I don't have a clique dear Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #84

No burnodo Aug 2013 #88

They already have upthread. morningfog Aug 2013 #97

Recommend! KoKo Aug 2013 #14

k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #16

Maybe Snowden understands how the aspens are connected at the roots? Autumn Aug 2013 #20

His wisdom and entire manner astound me n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #26

A good question and a good answer. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #23

BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SHIT!! Every male of color has the SAME EXACT EXCUSE in another context uponit7771 Aug 2013 #24

Well, thanks for clearing all that up. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #37

--- marions ghost Aug 2013 #39

The NYT's butthurt because they got scooped by someone that won't just sit on his ass. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #34

"Why would I want to?" nt bemildred Aug 2013 #36

Snowden, "famously paranoid" ProSense Aug 2013 #43

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #46

K&R marions ghost Aug 2013 #49

After watching the NYT ensure a second term for GWB Rex Aug 2013 #58

How would you have suggested? (Hong Kong, not China) n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #64

Give the information to a publication like Wired or Rolling Stones magazine. Rex Aug 2013 #66

Wired has collaborated with the government before and distorted things Catherina Aug 2013 #71

Yes actually I was surprised he did not head South. Rex Aug 2013 #75

Haha lol, I would not have stayed, not in a million years Catherina Aug 2013 #79

But running off automatically allows the govt to play the traitor card Rex Aug 2013 #80

But who's falling for the traitor card anymore? Catherina Aug 2013 #82

It is not that people are falling for it, it is the govt gets to use it as justification. Rex Aug 2013 #83

I think Greenwald, as a consitutional lawyer activist with a principled audience, is a better start Catherina Aug 2013 #86

He knows the right people to get things done. Rex Aug 2013 #89

wow, not one tough question arely staircase Aug 2013 #59

What should Snowden have done? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #69

Agree totally-- marions ghost Aug 2013 #74

The more this guy talks, the more I like him. bvar22 Aug 2013 #76

Well... you know I'm on record as having called him a hero since day 1 Catherina Aug 2013 #85

ouch. The truth hurts. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #78

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #87

Excellent article. blackspade Aug 2013 #91

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #92

I wish there was an unrec button, coz the article was pretty weak... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #94

kick idwiyo Aug 2013 #98