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Tommy_Carcetti

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43. Again, I think "respect" is a loaded term.

Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:14 AM

Aug 2013

To me, it connotes a sense of approval of something, or that you like that thing.

Maybe that's not the intention, but if someone says one must "respect" something, it comes off asking that one have some degree of admiration for it. And whether you like something or not is totally up to you.

Some people like guns. Other people do not like guns.

So I am hesitant to say that people must "respect" guns.

I do think that everyone needs to understand guns, whether they personally like them or not. Understand what they can do and what they are designed to do.

And to be frank, there are a lot of gun owners in this country--legal gun owners at that--who I don't think truly believe understand their own guns. And they may very well respect them, but I don't think they understand them.

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Why would a high school have an indoor rifle range? [View all] mfcorey1 Aug 2013 OP

Looks like a good time... Sotf Aug 2013 #1

that's nice. Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #2

We had one at my high school. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #3

Mine, too; we had a rifle team. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #76

We are building one at my daughter's high school for the ROTC kids. They are the only winterpark Aug 2013 #77

Yeah, my high school ROTC unit used demilitarised M1903 Springfields Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #78

Real nice, up until they have their first school shooting! B Calm Aug 2013 #4

Or for gawd's sake... MicaelS Aug 2013 #32

Didn't read the whole article did you? tumtum Aug 2013 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #80

All the High Schools near me have marksmanship teams that compete statewide NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #5

My HS had one, and I never knew while I attended JHB Aug 2013 #6

Pretty common all over the south Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #7

We had a rifle range at my HS, too. It was in the basement. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #8

To teach firearms safety and marksmanship... badtoworse Aug 2013 #9

as many have already said Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #10

Air Rifles....not to be confused with 22's or centerfire. ileus Aug 2013 #11

Because an outdoor one takes up too much space FBaggins Aug 2013 #12

My HS had an outdoor range. Xithras Aug 2013 #27

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess for competition shooting practice. TransitJohn Aug 2013 #13

During the 70s we did it all the time rl6214 Aug 2013 #14

My high school had a rifle team. hack89 Aug 2013 #15

The ROTC needs that training in case they're called to active duty NightWatcher Aug 2013 #16

Perhaps it would be a useful exercise... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #85

Interesting replies ...... oldhippie Aug 2013 #17

Surprises me, too. We didn't have a H.S. shooting program... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #60

For ROTC and competitive shooting. Some high schools in Manhattan had them, or the students msanthrope Aug 2013 #18

Its a great idea dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #19

I look at teaching gun safety just like info teaching sex ed Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #20

I agree 100% dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #47

Firearms need to be feared. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #23

And your view will lead to the things outlined in post 20 joeglow3 Aug 2013 #24

There's a major difference between fearing something and wanting to eradicate it. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #25

No guns should be "respected" not feared. MicaelS Aug 2013 #34

A healthy, rational fear of something for good reasons is a good thing. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #36

Fear is a loaded term. MicaelS Aug 2013 #44

The difference between guns and alcohol, drugs and comic books: Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #55

No. beevul Aug 2013 #84

Stop kidding yourself. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #87

The first 2 targets are used by most police forces for qualification, tumtum Aug 2013 #88

And there's nothing *intrisnically* wrong with having such a target for those purposes. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #89

I agree, tumtum Aug 2013 #90

No - like many potentially dangerous things they need to be respected. hack89 Aug 2013 #30

You don't need to respect them. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #35

Understanding is the basis of respect hack89 Aug 2013 #37

Again, I think "respect" is a loaded term. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #43

I think we are talking semantics hack89 Aug 2013 #49

See, with your analogy..... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #62

Not feared. Respected and understood. Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #31

Yes. Feared. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #33

But cars will kill more kids at that High School than guns hack89 Aug 2013 #39

Cars are not guns. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #45

We are talking about fearing potentially dangerous things, are we not? hack89 Aug 2013 #53

One is designed as a weapon, another is not. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #59

But which is more likely to kill you? nt hack89 Aug 2013 #61

The answer to that question would be heart attacks, strokes and cancer. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #63

You are not going to get me to fear my guns. hack89 Aug 2013 #65

Of course not. I can't dicate how you think, it's physically impossible. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #67

ok. nt hack89 Aug 2013 #69

And yet the one not designed as a weapon oneshooter Aug 2013 #94

And how many of those deaths are intentional vs. unintentional? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #95

"feared" is different than afforded the respect they deserve dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #48

Gun safety can be taught in public schools without actually giving kids access to guns. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2013 #56

It'll help the sprinters run faster Orrex Aug 2013 #21

Air Rifles. ROTC. MineralMan Aug 2013 #22

Yeah, that's been around for a long time bhikkhu Aug 2013 #29

Train the rich to hunt and the less rich to be soldiers liberal N proud Aug 2013 #26

Ummm...these are pellet guns wercal Aug 2013 #28

for indoor rifle practice? markiv Aug 2013 #38

Much hysteria about nothing. MicaelS Aug 2013 #40

My high school in El Paso had an indoor range under the stands for the stadium NoPasaran Aug 2013 #42

We had M-14s at my High School also. MicaelS Aug 2013 #46

I wonder, do they have a madmom Aug 2013 #50

too noisy for the neighborhood to keep outdoors? nt Deep13 Aug 2013 #51

In the fifties some catholic HS kids in uniform took rifles on the subway to matches at CK_John Aug 2013 #52

I don't think there is anything wrong with it tularetom Aug 2013 #54

I bet plenty of inner city schools have one Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #66

My high school in NYC still has one in the basement for JROTC NYC Liberal Aug 2013 #57

I take it you went to Xavier badtoworse Aug 2013 #72

I went to a University that has the best rifle team on earth, shooters had to come from somewhere 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #58

My mom did target shooting in high school. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #64

Why would a high school have an indoor rifle range? NCTraveler Aug 2013 #68

We had a rifle range at my school PD Turk Aug 2013 #70

Indoctrination! Training innocent kids not to wet their pants at the sight of a firearm!!! Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #71

Do you wet your pants at the sight of a firearm? badtoworse Aug 2013 #73

Only when its pointed at me. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #74

Perfect! badtoworse Aug 2013 #75

No. I was being sarcastic. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #81

Hard to tell sometimes when it comes to guns badtoworse Aug 2013 #91

Very cool! ManiacJoe Aug 2013 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Politicalboi Aug 2013 #82

We had one for air rifle too Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #83

The Daily Caller? BainsBane Aug 2013 #86

Is the article false? N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #92

Did you bother to actually READ the article? MicaelS Aug 2013 #93