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FBaggins

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40. Hardly a thing right in there.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 08:16 PM
Aug 2013
The building lost it's top two floors to an explosion and fire

Nope. It lost the non-structural outer shell of the upper two floors. The structural members were intentionally removed months later to make room for the fuel-removal equipment.

The fuel pool must have lost its cooling waters after 3/11, either from leaks or boiling away what little water was left, as the pumps could not replace or circulate the cooling water.

Nope. You've been corrected on this multiple times over the last couple years. In the initial days of the accident it was worried that there might be a leak... but that has long-since been dismissed as an error. The pool was never dry.

The feeling is that since the rods in the pool already overheated, the rods may have disintegrated and not be intact, as when placed.

Nope. There's no longer a valid concern that the fuel overheated or that the rods "disintegrated". They've had a clear view into that pool for over two years and the fuel is undamaged apart from debris falling into the pool.

If that is true, then any movement may lead to another catastrophic sequence of events.

Nope. The margin of safety in a fuel pools is many MANY times larger than the worst scenario of dropping a fuel bundle. You could drop one outside of the pool and that would be a mess for the people who had to clean it up... but there is no catasrophy scenario for unit 4 apart from the collapse of the building itself (which was never really in danger).

we do live in interesting times, where actions half a world away could still result in injury to you and your loved ones.

Only the risk that irrational fears might drive you over the edge. Fukushima was never a big risk to those hald a world away... and it certainly ceased to be even that much quite some time back.

Indeed, the webcam from the plant showed a foggy atmosphere at 3 in the afternoon JST. Something is overheating there now.

Riiight... because "foggy atmosphere" can only be caused by something that endangers the entire globe. See my irrational fear comment above.

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The problem of spent fuel storage pools at nuclear power plants progree Aug 2013 #1
K&R! Great article, a must-read, IMO. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #2
Damned if they do, damned if they don't HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #3
No, reactor three has the UO2/MOX fuel. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #4
You're right, it wasn't MOX HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #5
Still not unicorns and rainbows if it catches on fire though.. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #6
It's one reason why thorium molten salt reactors were abandoned Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #14
All spent fuel rods have plutonium in them - during fission, some of the uranium captures neutrons progree Aug 2013 #8
Thanks to both of you for your explanations. HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #10
Assuming that TEPCO...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #7
Yup, that's why they are worried - better to TRY to get this done now rather than later progree Aug 2013 #9
Great links! Thanks! nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #13
K&R! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #11
K&R. silvershadow Aug 2013 #12
Funny, it's on Reuter's front page RIGHT NOW, but it's NOT "late breaking news" per DU? go figger. nilram Aug 2013 #15
It's not breaking news because... FBaggins Aug 2013 #39
It's not just Arnie Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #48
Those are entirely different things FBaggins Aug 2013 #49
Scary shit davidpdx Aug 2013 #16
There are earthquakes in Japan every day Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #17
That's a little too close for comfort for me davidpdx Aug 2013 #24
Interestingly enough, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #29
I heard a lot of foreigners did leave or move to other places in Japan davidpdx Aug 2013 #43
There was (still is?) an official advisory to US citizens to not stay for more than a year Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #45
The Korean Navy just got a new submarine davidpdx Aug 2013 #47
This picture was taken a few days after the 3-11 earthquake Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #32
Earthquakes In Japan? We GOT your earthquakes in Japan right here... PearliePoo2 Aug 2013 #26
The seismic activity for March-May 2011 is really amazing Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #28
Tell me how building these things were a good idea to begin with madokie Aug 2013 #18
In Japan, at least, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #19
Good, that's the correct course of action. Sirveri Aug 2013 #20
Yes it is. But it will be dangerous as hell.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #21
Why? FBaggins Aug 2013 #41
"Arnie's nonsense"??? Really? Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #51
Yes... really. FBaggins Aug 2013 #52
So then the question is, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #22
The safe place is clearly not where it currently is. Sirveri Aug 2013 #37
Of course, transporting such hazardous materials by truck would not be so safe, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #44
I've got a really bad feeling about this... PearliePoo2 Aug 2013 #23
The Tokyo Metro Area has 30 million population Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #30
30 plus million??? Good grief! PearliePoo2 Aug 2013 #33
It is pretty darn dense Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #36
not as scary as leaving them there. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #25
Hey, the Fukiexperts say will say...wait. Where are our experts? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #27
Ask your doctor if plutonium is right for you. Octafish Aug 2013 #31
You know what the 1% say to the possibility of 30 million deaths? WinkyDink Aug 2013 #34
Reactor #4 RobertEarl Aug 2013 #35
Hardly a thing right in there. FBaggins Aug 2013 #40
Haha RobertEarl Aug 2013 #46
Hilarious FBaggins Aug 2013 #50
Heh RobertEarl Aug 2013 #53
Even more hilarious... keep 'em coming. FBaggins Aug 2013 #54
So, you got nothing? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #55
Oh... my apologies. FBaggins Aug 2013 #56
Wow RobertEarl Aug 2013 #59
Five reactors under construction within spittin' distance of your front door FBaggins Aug 2013 #60
the structure is likely tilted and is bulging after its last explosion magical thyme Aug 2013 #57
Not really. FBaggins Aug 2013 #58
No, I'm not saying. Reuters is saying, based on the people they interviewed magical thyme Aug 2013 #62
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #61
k and r for solar and wind DonRedwood Aug 2013 #38
Incalculable rational; rational to move spent fuel to stable off site location for best case. PufPuf23 Aug 2013 #42
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